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    socsa
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    This still doesnโ€™t accomplish the goal of knowing which door will kill you. All youโ€™ve done is determine which guard is the liar.

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      This still doesnโ€™t accomplish the goal of knowing which door will kill you. All youโ€™ve done is determine which guard is the liar.

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      jax@sh.itjust.works
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      So you ask them which way leads to the castle and you donโ€™t pick the way they say.

      If weโ€™re assuming that these things are actually bound by some kind of rule stating they literally cannot lie or literally cannot tell the truth.

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      • J jax@sh.itjust.works

        So you ask them which way leads to the castle and you donโ€™t pick the way they say.

        If weโ€™re assuming that these things are actually bound by some kind of rule stating they literally cannot lie or literally cannot tell the truth.

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        macniel
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        But you asked your one question to the one remaining guard. You gained no intel.

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          This still doesnโ€™t accomplish the goal of knowing which door will kill you. All youโ€™ve done is determine which guard is the liar.

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          I believe thatโ€™s the joke. The barbarians intelligence isnโ€™t usually very high.

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          • macnielD macniel

            But you asked your one question to the one remaining guard. You gained no intel.

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            lumisal@lemmy.world
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            But the other party members havenโ€™t

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            • H HexesofVexes

              So the traditional answer here is to ask them to point at the door the other guard will say is safe.

              However, Iโ€™m curious, does anyone know of any other valid solutions?

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              EntirelyUnlovable
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              โ€œIs the guard that tells the truth standing in front of the safe door?โ€ If they say yes, you go through their door, if they say no then you go to the other one

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              • E edge004@lemmy.zip

                The difficulty comes from only being able to ask one question. Itโ€™s very easy to figure out the liar, but itโ€™s much more difficult to figure out the liar and the correct door in the same question

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                aqarius@lemmy.world
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                In fact, the lying guard is a red herring. You get one question, and need one piece of info: the door. The canonical question doesnโ€™t tell you which guard lies, nor do you care to find out.

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                • L lumisal@lemmy.world

                  But the other party members havenโ€™t

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                  ztpq@slrpnk.net
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                  #46

                  The riddle only makes sense as such with one question in total.

                  The trick is to ask one guard what the other guard would say is behind a particular door.

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                  • Z ztpq@slrpnk.net

                    The riddle only makes sense as such with one question in total.

                    The trick is to ask one guard what the other guard would say is behind a particular door.

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                    chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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                    The riddle is worded vaguely and we just murdered one of the guys. I think we can lawyer another question out of them.

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                    • C chuckleslord@lemmy.world

                      The riddle is worded vaguely and we just murdered one of the guys. I think we can lawyer another question out of them.

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                      jerkface@lemmy.world
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                      Start b-ballinโ€™ with that head and see how long it takes that guard to change his tune

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                      • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netI infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net

                        The first time I encountered a version of this riddle it actually wasnโ€™t Labyrinth. It was an old black and white episode of Dr Who aired on PBS when I was a little kid. Same scenario but if I recall, robots instead of guardsmen. I think the good doctor solved the riddle in the typical way of asking one robot what the other would say. Iโ€™m looking for it now but I canโ€™t find the scene.

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                        saratonin@lemmy.world
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                        Pyramids of Mars

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                          Do you think it would suck to be one of the bottom heads? ๐Ÿค”

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                          • C caseyweederman

                            Iโ€™ve always seen it as outside of their control. Itโ€™s not that the lying guard chooses to lie, itโ€™s that theyโ€™re incapable of not lying.

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                            seasoned_greetings@sh.itjust.works
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                            I mean, he could still lie. Heโ€™d just have to afford one more question

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                              cilethesane@lemmy.ca
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                              The third guard stabs people who ask tricky questions.

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                                My favorite take on this:

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                                • W wowwoweowza@lemmy.world

                                  One question per group. Also now you die because murder.

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                                  cilethesane@lemmy.ca
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                                  Barbarian just ripped the head off of one of the guards, you think the other guard is going to be able to arrest them?

                                  โ€œAnswer our questions or youโ€™re next.โ€

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                                    tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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                                    Just shoot em in the foot

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                                      I believe thatโ€™s the joke. The barbarians intelligence isnโ€™t usually very high.

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                                      mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      I love playing low Intelligence high Wisdom characters. Because Wisdom governs stats like Perception, Insight, and Animal Handling. So your character will notice things that the rest of the party misses, but often doesnโ€™t have the intelligence to put the individual pieces together.

                                      Once played a high wisdom barbarian. He would notice things like traps or clues, but I would RP it with things like โ€œHey, whyโ€™s that wire stretched across the path? Someone is going to trip over thatโ€ฆโ€ The other players very quickly learned to pay attention whenever I asked stupid questions, because it was usually my way of announcing โ€œI noticed something that the rest of you missed.โ€

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                                      • EntirelyUnlovableE EntirelyUnlovable

                                        โ€œIs the guard that tells the truth standing in front of the safe door?โ€ If they say yes, you go through their door, if they say no then you go to the other one

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                                        jargonwagon@lemmy.world
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                                        Thatโ€™s wild that this works. What.

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                                        • S saratonin@lemmy.world

                                          Pyramids of Mars

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                                          Yes, thank you!! Found the scene itself since the whole serial is apparently on youtube: https://youtu.be/lLBHbt9QYFU?t=5458

                                          Funny how my memory had it in black and white. And I remember the scene being much longer. I watched it when I was like, 9.

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