That’s interesting, from a conversational analysis point of view there are literally little measurable breaks in all conversations where anyone can try to take the turn.

Does that mean you lot can’t hear them?

Or is it a matter of not having the timing to hit them, o maybe that other people (verbally)wrestle the turn from you?

Everyone in my engineering department is neurospicy and we keep having quick conversations where we interrupt each other. It’s glorious. It’s like when somebody knocks all the crap off the table to point at a heist map, only for a second and third person to do the same thing.

Ooh, I don’t know about that. Maybe if everyone’s on the same page. ND can’t help but interrupt, but really dislike being interrupted. I gotta finish my thought sometimes.

Are you seriously upset that nonautistic people have a similar negative experience as autistic people? What a wild thing to be angry about, autism or not

every fucking time.

I try for few times and then just give up after wards even if people ask if I was saying something( which is rare), i just say that i forgot.

I dont like cutting people off.

This is also a neurotypical feeling when trying to carry on a conversation with multiple people. Especially if they’re our ADHD friends. Goodness, that becomes so overwhelming.

Find friends who appreciate your input. I struggle with this too, but I refuse to put effort into sneaking into a conversation whose participants won’t open it to me. My friends are mostly NT but they can just tell when I’ve got something I want to say.

not literally in all conversations

I found that out the hard way with my new manager. he literally doesn’t give people a chance and just moves on. it’s infuriating

Angryhumanoid Why? What have I done that is assholeish, other than point out that there might be a reason these posts keep coming up?

Whining about them seems like awfully fucking dickhead behaviour, though.

lostcarcosan@lemmy.today No. I’m not upset at all. Why do you choose to read my comment as I were? I thumbed my nose at someone who dripped in with nothing to contribute other than being a jerkass prick, but that’s different from being upset.

Are you supporting the little whiny one?

My personal take is this used to happen to me all the time because I am actually actively listening to the entire content of what the other person is saying, then trying to formulate the next thing to say based on that. Do that and you’ll constantly miss your turn at conversation. Just vibe with whatever is being said and then respond to just the last sentence or last few words you heard right before the person stopped talking. Neurotypical people pretty rarely hear/remember much of exactly what someone else had said, they “feel” it internally as the words come at them, pick up a keyword or two from the last few words spoken, and carry on from there. Start doing that and you’ll respond in time with their pace.

Asshole behavior that one might use autism as an excuse for in this post: not knowing when to enter a conversation. What a jerk.

Ok Captain Trying-to-hard-to-pick-a-fight, I’ll try to spell it out for you. Do you claim that people being repeatedly interrupted in conversation with others only happens to autistic people, or happens more frequently to autistic people, or that it happening is “harder” on an autistic person than it is on neurotypicals? If A, prove it. If B, prove it. If C, prove it.

Angryhumanoid

Do you claim that people being repeatedly interrupted in conversation with others only happens to autistic people

No. And neither does OOP.

or happens more frequently to autistic people

No. And neither does OOP.

or that it happening is “harder” on an autistic person than it is on neurotypicals

No. And neither does OOP.

Now, did you jump into this thread just to Well, akshually, or did you have a real point that’s of interest to the rest of the class? Because my issue here is that you seem to want to make the discussion about your disruptive smug fuckery, and think having that pointed out in any way makes the pointer an asshole.

Which makes you a colossal dickhead. And a troll.

Go back to harassing the goats on your bridge.

Well since you just blatantly lied about what was said in the original post I will no longer engage with you. I know you were kinda hoping I’d say something like that so you could try to play the “Well that’s not exactly what they said” card but you’ll have to play that card on someone else.

I struggle here. I did a fair amount of speaking and voice work in the past, which trained me to minimize the use of filler words. Since that means I go silent if I need to think a moment, I have to battle back those who are listening not to understand, but for silence so they can begin. It makes work meetings, especially calls without video, very frustrating.

In a normal conversation with normal people maybe. Get three or more people that love to talk and every little break is instantly jumped on by the others. Online meetings are even worse. In person, your body language usually gives the hint that you might want to say something. Online, I just respond in chat now when I can’t actually speak during the meeting. I’m not going to fight for a turn.

Me (ADHD) and one of the autistic guys at work are a damn disaster trying to converse sometimes. He barrels on for so long with a train of thought that I start daydreaming or get distracted by a phrase and tune him out. Then i snap to reality and realize the conversation is over and I’ve barely heard most of what he’s said. It’s… troublesome. I sometimes have to record our meetings or take notes and make a summary to put it all together.

But with others that are not neurotypical, usually also ADHD, it almost seems like we can read each other’s thoughts with how we can rapidly jump around various subjects with barely any context and be on the exact same page. Strange how that works.