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Kichae

Moreau Vazh It seems to be about knowwing every problem is solvable with their favourite paper buttons, that they get to push those buttons to solve whatever problems come their way, even if it doesn’t make sense, and that they never gave to think about anything during the session, only during chargen, level up, and daily resets.

It’s about ensuring they can win the game, and avoid engaging with the world.

It’s about playing on SPG without having to read anything or assess their options in any way.

Oh, and it’s probably about their particular brand of autistic inflexibility being focused on rules and navigating, rather than manipulatung, systems. But mostly, I think it’s about the new brand of munchkinism and rules lawyering that petends it’s neither of those things.

Kichae

Charnock Yes. It’s moving from board-games and MMORPGs into TTRPGs and expecting there to be a button on your character sheet that you can press.

Moreau Vazh I like games with feats, and skills lists, and numbers that present a framework for differentiating a character’s skills and learning from the players’. I kind of hate paper buttons, though, and it’s exactly because of players seeing them as signals that it’s a board game experience.

I prefer a high trust environment with a… a physics engine, as it were. A consistent and internally consistent set of tools and progression systems. The vast majority of people who talk about such games essentially demand low trust environments where they are entitled to not just have a say in how their choices are adjudicated, but also in what everyone else’s choices can be.

I once had someone reply to one of my YouTube comments on this saying that they believed that all tables should run strictly RAW, because then they didn’t have to vet the GM before dropping into the game, and it’s like… No wonder I can’t stand talking to these people.

Kichae

* Finger templing intensifies *

Kichae

Charnock

One of the structured things I’ve noticed is people’s inability to see gaming as a tool kit.

This. This is the thing that drives me crazy.

Already have your own established toolbox? OSR isn’t for you, because that’s now for people who don’t want any rules (besides, apparently, Advantage/Disadvantage).

Like a fully kitted out toolbox? Well, congratulations, you’re now apparently soul-bound to every single part of it! Ignoring, modifying, or using your own rules is the equivalent of being a terrorist.

Only 5e GMs are allowed to make choices about the system. Everyone else just gets to choose which system to use.

Kichae

themoken@startrek.website Some want to play XCOM without dice, and get really pissy when the dice say “no”.

Kichae

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works You and your friends might want to explore the idea of social gravity in neurodivergence.

Kichae

mirshafie@europe.pub Yes, and… is this propagating anywhere in any meaningful way?

Kichae

This image is 80% of my personality.

But also, when did every single PNG on the internet become a “meme”? Feels like I’ve been seeing this a lot, lately.

Kichae

The Pathfinder 2e subreddit is up to their usual nonsense again, and I just don’t have the patience for it today. This time they’re loudly and clumsily declaring that the rules state that thr world should not have encounters that are not level appropriate for the PCs in it.

This isn’t even video game logic anymore. It’s just self-important cirxle jerking.

Imagine having such a vast toolbox for emulating a world and believing it should only be used to fluff the players.

#pathfinder2e #pf2e #dnd #ttrpg #reddit

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