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Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    @Jmj Yes. Also I suspect the semantic expressiveness of programming languages is far narrower than that of human languages: they're more precise, but it's much harder (though not impossible!) to write poetry in them. So there's less risk of losing something unique by generating output that tends to occupy the middle of the bell curve.

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    @cstross @Jmj I mean I think one could make a coherent argument that programming *is* poetry: reduced syntax, enforced structure, heavy use of metaphor…

    It’s just most programming topics make Vogon poetry look exciting.
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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

      (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

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      @cstross "Model collapse", Shumailov, Shumaylov & Papernot (2024), Nature : https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07566-y

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      • Chris (so far)P Chris (so far)
        @cstross @Jmj I mean I think one could make a coherent argument that programming *is* poetry: reduced syntax, enforced structure, heavy use of metaphor…

        It’s just most programming topics make Vogon poetry look exciting.
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        @perigrin @cstross but I think in the code case the subtle semantics of the words and combinations are less likely to be the important or desirable aspects, whereas in poetry it’s likely that those aspects are precisely the desired meaning.

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          @cstross

          nicely described by Orwell as

          'NewSpeak'

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          @Sassinake @cstross 👍 "duck speak"

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

            (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

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            Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is boring and dangerous

            opinion: The subtractive bias we're ignoring

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            (www.theregister.com)

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            @cstross I am sitting in a room different from the one you are in now. I am recording the sound of my speaking voice and I am going to play it back into the room again and again until the resonant frequencies of the room reinforce themselves...

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            • J jmj

              @perigrin @cstross but I think in the code case the subtle semantics of the words and combinations are less likely to be the important or desirable aspects, whereas in poetry it’s likely that those aspects are precisely the desired meaning.

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              @Jmj @cstross Perl’s TIMTOWDI has ruined me.
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