The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.
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I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan
We're going to find out in twenty years that the endless torrent of spam that drove people away from public forums to Discord and Facebook was funded/aided by Facebook and Discord.
It's fucking Jia Tan, all the way down. I know it in my bones.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan the inability to process written language was the first slice at the throat, imo.
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FWIW, many educators also find this terrible from an instructor’s point of view. Of course, some enjoy it. But for many it shifts the focus from teaching, learning, and subject matter to performing on screen, which is not what we got into the field for in the first place.
Do not underestimate the extent the ongoing “pivot to video” reflects what can be monetized rather than actual preference or effectiveness.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan not to toot my own horn too much, but this has been annoying me for YEARS, and after pushing for way too long there's now interactive learning built into #Grafana.. as in, If you go to https://play.grafana.org/alerting , click the question mark in the upper right, and then select the interactive guide, it teaches you within the UI
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@Daojoan what might help is to try different search engines that focus on blogs and lower the ranking based on ads and tracking.
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The big two trackers (google & bing) actively give big tech and ads supported websites higher ratings, leaving independent blogs in the dust, at page 8.
@lil5@social.linux.pizza @Daojoan@mastodon.social Thanks for these links.
In my experience, mojeek can sometimes be good at showing personal sites but it can also show a lot of SEO spam that appears AI generated and there's a lot missing from its index. It's like rolling the dice whether it will have any useful results to a query and I ended up quitting it because it was so unreliable.
Kagi often has low quality results but what you're paying for is the the filtering tools which can help dial things in. -
I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq@mastodon.com.pl @Daojoan@mastodon.social @earthshine@masto.hackers.town Canva had the idea of archiving the Affinity suite forums and moving the community into Discord.
Which is why I'm sticking with v2 and not trusting v3. -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
"Oh, I remember this video talked about that. Let me just ctrl-F the keyword to find the right part of the video..." -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan And to make matters worse, there is fuck ton of stupid Ai generated generic slop videos that don't actually fix anything, it's just a generic video to fix some very broad issue and you can find like 15 same videos from different "creators".
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
it is the WORST, but more on that later! 🤮 -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
I remember, that I had to find a certain function on a device I own.
Explaining where to find it, takes two simple sentences in English, maybe 200 bytes.
The only thing, I found on the net: A multi-minute #video. Megabytes wasted. Let's burn the planet.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan I swear I'm constantly running into a theme, were something that's better off as text is made a video and then some complicated disassembly tutorial again is in text form that is so vague most of the time I have no idea what's been referred to, especially when it's put through a machine translator first.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan You are onto the truth. I love the convenience and art of video/film. However, "educational film and tv" are time consuming and frequently/usually unclear. While I use maps for navigation instead of a list of directions, I much prefer a guide with good clear drawings to a video tutorial. The latter are to keep viewers online while data harvesting. It's the tyranny of the filmmaker to control how viewers are fed information. As kids, we mocked "educational films" as time out.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan Yup. Its something I dislike as well. And I say this as a person who learns well from visuals.
I still feel like that for every tutorial video....there should be an image/text tutorial to accompany it (and those images in the article better have alt tags)
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
I think that sometimes visualizing helps a lot with guides, but I agree with the fact that those videoguides are ofter filled with useless information and marketing. -
@Daojoan Bonus funsies of your hearing is shit, so you have to rely on the auto-generated captions. Ask me how I know how much fun that is.
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I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I don’t know that this is Discord’s fault. It started with the rise of social media, which was the death of classic forums. Social media then abused their position for profit, which drove people to more private options. Since everyone forgot how to run their own service, they tried using whatever SaaS option they were already using to fill the gap. I miss the vBulletin days.
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@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I blame stackoverflow.
That guy set out with the stated goal of killing all forums and usenet and having all questions and such in one central database used by everyone.
It fucking worked. Those things all died and search results largely point at that place. AI is starting to swamp it out, but there you go...
I was actually slow to shift from usenet/forum to stackoverflow. Eventually I did until I just stopped participating in the "community".
@crazyeddie @miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan Facebook Groups and Reddit where also guilty here.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan I feel that and I am glad that we convinced a bunch of people to write tutorials: https://oemof-solph.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials.html
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Food bloggers used to write things down. That is, they used to teach you how to cook. Nowadays, they still write, but it's like every article starts with, "I was born on a farm in Nebraska..."
@Professor_Stevens @Daojoan
I understand that specific phenomenon to be a result of plain old recipe instructions not looking "legit" to web search algorithms. Leading with an irrelevant story is an SEO trick to look like a "real" webpage to a computer, even though it drives us actual humans absolutely nuts. -
@Daojoan makes me want to make a tutorial video that's just the text of the tutorial slowly scrolling past
@ghosttie @Daojoan
Videos that are just people reading a webpage to you are some of the most aggravating to me. Dude, if I'm *actually* looking for a video, I'm looking for someone who has new information I can't find in text form, opinions, or at *least* has aggregated multiple sources. I'm not a little kid; I don't need analog text-to-speech.
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