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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

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  • EarthshineE Earthshine

    @passenger @Daojoan DISCORD. IS. NOT. A. KB. Everything anyone posts there is already ephemeral. May as well have never been posted at all.

    Daniel SchildtA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Daniel Schildt
    wrote last edited by
    #24

    @earthshine @passenger @Daojoan Similar problems with Slack based communities, because "free" version actively hides and deletes older posts after a certain amount of time.

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    • PassengerP Passenger

      @earthshine @Daojoan

      When Discord collapses, it's going to take a scary amount of knowledge bases with it.

      Fabian TranschelF This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #25

      @passenger @earthshine @Daojoan Well yes and no - since the knowledge wasn't accessible in the traditional sense anyways, the informational margin is suprisingly slim imo.

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      • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

        @Daojoan

        The video is interrupted by an advertisement every few minutes. Very irritating.

        Fabian TranschelF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #26

        @Npars01 @Daojoan There are browser extension for at least this problem. And they work well.

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        • Alexis Sophia 🏳️‍⚧️S Alexis Sophia 🏳️‍⚧️

          @Daojoan I had a really annoying one the other day. It was a course that my boss wanted me to do, around the use of AI in video distribution. Anyway, the training website was set up that as soon as the window playing the video lost focus, it would pause!! No clicking on other apps while watching this video on pain of pause.

          Naturally, I spent a few minutes reverse engineering the website to extract the video and watch it outside of their crap, so that I was able to do other things whilst the guy wittered on about irrelevant Jira integrations.

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          wrote last edited by
          #27

          @sophiarose @Daojoan I’ve found that Firefox’s picture-in-picture mode works really well in cases like this. Usually, it tricks the page that it still has focus, so the video keeps playing, but even if stops, you can resume it with PiP controls.

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          • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

            Alien software, human hardwareM This user is from outside of this forum
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            Alien software, human hardware
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            #28

            @Daojoan but on the plus side: you can use the YouTube "ai" to turn the video into a longer-winded text full of errors!

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            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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              jimkennedy
              wrote last edited by
              #29

              @Daojoan and the first two minutes telling you how "we're gonna jump right into it."

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              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                Mark LynchM This user is from outside of this forum
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                Mark Lynch
                wrote last edited by
                #30

                @Daojoan all compounded by the fact that the vast majority of people uploading instructional videos are *monumentally fucking shit* at instructing. Teaching is a skill, and most people who try to do it just leave you wanting to punch them repeatedly for being so obliviously bad at it

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                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                  Allan HaverholmH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #31

                  @Daojoan Very much agree. I'm a visual person, but in the sense that I scan a well organised text much, much faster than a rando with a webcam can explain it.

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                  • DamirP Damir

                    @sophiarose @Daojoan I’ve found that Firefox’s picture-in-picture mode works really well in cases like this. Usually, it tricks the page that it still has focus, so the video keeps playing, but even if stops, you can resume it with PiP controls.

                    Alexis Sophia 🏳️‍⚧️S This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Alexis Sophia 🏳️‍⚧️
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                    #32

                    @peacegiverman @Daojoan I tried that. The javascript on the site must have been polling focus because a few seconds after restarting playback, it would pause again! At which point it was "right, this is war. I will not be beaten!" Thankfully, it was an unprotected mp4 file, so trivial to feed into vlc

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                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                      #33

                      @Daojoan I like the use of #video as very short clips embedded in a text narrative or instructions, along with still #photographs.
                      As used by the @bbc in the early days of the Web.
                      Stills are often best for showing which part is where, video is a good way to see how someone skilled does a particular tricky move, words convey #structuredinformation, and best printed.

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                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                        Elric
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                        #34

                        @Daojoan I blame the platforms (Coursera, Udemy, etc). They all enable mediocre quality video peddlers to make a fair amount of money.

                        A course-creation/monetization platform that didn't rely on video would probably be beneficial.

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                        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                          Dizzy
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                          #35

                          @Daojoan true. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't pad it out so much with useless ramblings just to stretch the useful bit.

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                          • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                            C.S.Strowbridge
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                            #36

                            @Daojoan

                            Or if you do find a written tutorial, it's written by AI, so you can't trust it.

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                            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                              xs4me2
                              wrote last edited by
                              #37

                              @Daojoan

                              True…

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                              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                #38

                                @Daojoan @sashabilton True. But there are exceptions.

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                                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #39

                                  @Daojoan
                                  Heartily agreed! While _some_ things benefit from video (like "How do you take apart this thing?", though well made photos do the same), most things really don't need a video and bad voice over.

                                  FWIW, there is this script:

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  GitHub - obra/Youtube2Webpage: I learn much better from text than from videos

                                  I learn much better from text than from videos. Contribute to obra/Youtube2Webpage development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                                  GitHub (github.com)

                                  which converts YT videos to a series of screenshots along with the subtitled text. I have not tried it, so I don't know how well it works.

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                                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                    Vsevolod
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                                    #40

                                    @Daojoan
                                    Just right, I hate videos personally: it is heavy, breaks keyword search and version control.
                                    What's even worse, I assume we talk about youtube and tiktok/reels videos.

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                                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                      Hans
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @Daojoan and you listen to the annoying video that ultimately doesn't deliver

                                      or, if it does, you have try to rewind to relisten to the relevant bit and always rewind too far,

                                      or you try to take a screenshot of the critical part but are not allowed to.

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                                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                        Federico
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                                        #42

                                        @Daojoan Really annoying
                                        But luckily I have found an exception for coding:
                                        Codecademy

                                        No video, just text and coding exercises. Directly on their platform. You code following the exercise, it corrects you and you can test yourself directly on their platform

                                        I have a love/hate relationship with them: I love the fact that it is practical, no 30 minute video course, but the pace is really slow.
                                        But if you want to tackle a new topic in coding, it's just great

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                                        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                          Martin
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #43

                                          @Daojoan
                                          But every information is repeated 5 times, to get the 10 minutes video filled up.
                                          With garbage.

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