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Trump threatens 35% tariffs on Canada starting Aug. 1

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  • C cm0002@lemmy.world
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    humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    #30

    Our leaderships tried appeasement and appeal to “fortress Can-Am”. Maybe they are all paid/programmed to be loyal CIA colonists, and had to at least try keeping the same political capital that brought them to leadership. Fine, we are open to joining EU in context of CIA colonies and NATO subservience, with absurd 5% of GDP spent primarily on US weapons, but that EU proposition must change.

    Yes, Canada, EU, and Asian colonies should coordinate on US war against them. It has to be in the context of an alliance with China against the US, or the serious threat of that as a negotiation stance, and full detente with China until negotiations are successful. Removing US from NATO, Council of Americas, and NORAD or charging them significant rent for any bases/presence/services. We must end the US project of a proxy war on Russia, and the delusional fear manufacturing that Russia is a bigger threat than the US, that we only make true through US programed suicidal hatred towards Russia. Joining EU for purposes of distracting population that a war on Russia is more important than economic collapse, just because political power can be rallied behind instead of rejected as cause of collapse, it a bad reason to join EU.

    Carney’s “The special relationship with US is over” has to be followed up with different behaviour than begging to be a more subservient colony. Maybe this is the final wakeup call? If not, just more abuse to follow.

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    • K GingaNinga

      bring back DST and 3X it, fuck em.

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      wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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      Add a “reciprocal” US services tax on top.

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      • L lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world

        Bring it, bitch.

        I will never visit the us again. i cancelled netflix, prime, apple music. i use crave, cbc gem, and qobuz now. i installed ubuntu on my old surface pro and it works beautifully. switched to libre office. my next phone will be a fairphone.

        when i go to the grocery store, if an item i want is a product of the usa, i eat something else.

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        wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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        I also cancelled and use the same services! Qobuz is pretty good, it has a lot of room to improve but it’s keeping me more up to date with music than Apple was.

        I got Sync.com (Canadian) instead of iCloud (though iCloud is not fully replaceable). My backup server is in the EU because I use custom borg scripts, but there’s also eazyBackup in Canada.

        I own my own domain for email, and I bought my wife one too so she can get off of Gmail.

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        • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

          No I think he knows exactly what he’s doing and it has very little to do with anything Trump does, despite what he or anyone else says.

          He’s handing our money to corporations and butt fucking us in a much quieter way than PP would have, but he seems to be doing it very intentionally.

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          outlierblue@lemmy.ca
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          He’s a banker. He’s on capitalism’s side, not the people’s.

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          • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

            No I think he knows exactly what he’s doing and it has very little to do with anything Trump does, despite what he or anyone else says.

            He’s handing our money to corporations and butt fucking us in a much quieter way than PP would have, but he seems to be doing it very intentionally.

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            circav@lemmy.ca
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            #34

            So fucken true!! Really disappointed in Carney so far. He’s not standing up to Trump, doing everything in secret, no updates. Paying American companies for military equipment (night vision), not cancelling the fighter jets order, begging the abuser to trade with us while we’re giving shit up left right and centre. Fuck this!! But PP and cons would not be better.

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            • F fourish@lemmy.world

              Con troll. Blocked.

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              aeppelcyning@lemmy.ca
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              HAHAHA I hate the Cons and am an NDP voter who lent Carney my vote (first time voting Lib, actually) because I felt a Con government would handle Trump exactly the way Carney apparently is doing, apparently.
              That will likely be the first and last time, that is for sure.

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              • A aeppelcyning@lemmy.ca

                Carney needs to grow a pair. I’ve had enough of him not saying anything. We voted for elbows up, not subservience. I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

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                teppa
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                #36

                He wants housing prices to remain elevated, you dont get that by cutting off your supply of USD.

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                  He’s a banker. He’s on capitalism’s side, not the people’s.

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                  teppa
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                  #37

                  His literally said housing prices shouldn’t fall, even though he have a world leading housing bubble that threatens to bring down our entire economy. This level of mismanagement is how communist countries are created.

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                  • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                    I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

                    The U.S. temporarily ended trade talks in late June over Canada’s digital services tax, but the federal government moved to drop the tax just days later and negotiations resumed.

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                    hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                    #38

                    That’s not an answer

                    Edit: Fuckstick being caved to is poor negotiation.

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                      skozzii@lemmy.ca
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                      #39

                      So are we gonna get a TACO pool going… everyone bet which day Trump caves and winner takes all.

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                      • E enkers

                        Carney can’t decide if he wants elbows up or not. In fact, he flipflops so much, he looks like hes doing the chicken dance.

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                        skozzii@lemmy.ca
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                        #40

                        What are some examples? The DST is postponed as trade leverage which is still ongoing. I haven’t seen him flop flop on anything yet, and he hasn’t been PM for long enough to see how anything had played out. He seems very calculated and has been getting great results so far within Canada and internationally.

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                        • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                          That’s not an answer

                          Edit: Fuckstick being caved to is poor negotiation.

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                          arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                          Can you explain to me how the US cancels trade talks over the DST, Canada drops the DST, and the US resumes trade talks in response to the dropped DST is not the answer to the question “What did we get for the DST removal?”?

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                          • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                            Yes, and apparently they include 35% tariffs across the board now. So the question remains, what did we get for dropping the DST?

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                            arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                            The trade talks have “included tariffs” the entire time, and the question does not remain because we got trade talks with the US reopened after dropping the DST that the US cancelled after we implemented it.

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                            • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                              Can you explain to me how the US cancels trade talks over the DST, Canada drops the DST, and the US resumes trade talks in response to the dropped DST is not the answer to the question “What did we get for the DST removal?”?

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                              hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                              #43

                              Resuming trade talks when the US created the mess, getting something in return from the orange one. What did we get?

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                                Resuming trade talks when the US created the mess, getting something in return from the orange one. What did we get?

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                                arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                                I am not going to argue with you over your own opinion regarding what it means to “get something” in a trade talk.

                                Fact is the US ended all trade negotiations over the DST, meaning we won’t discuss trading any further, until Canada dropped the DST and the US reopened negotiations. Which means “ability to negotiate trade again” is literally “what we got”.

                                I am sorry that is not good enough for you, but that is what happened and you can verify it through basically any source.

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                                • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                                  The trade talks have “included tariffs” the entire time, and the question does not remain because we got trade talks with the US reopened after dropping the DST that the US cancelled after we implemented it.

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                                  hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                  #45

                                  So he acts like a child and we are supposed to be honoured that he came back to the table? These aren’t trade talks. They are extortion and this fucking clown ripped up HIS OWN AGREEMENT.

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                                  • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                                    So he acts like a child and we are supposed to be honoured that he came back to the table? These aren’t trade talks. They are extortion and this fucking clown ripped up HIS OWN AGREEMENT.

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                                    arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                                    I sincerely do not care about any of this. I was simply answering a question.

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                                    • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                                      I sincerely do not care about any of this. I was simply answering a question.

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                                      hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                      Yeah and poorly at that.

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                                        ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                                        Less trade with the US the better

                                        Hopefully he actually follows through

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                                        • A aeppelcyning@lemmy.ca

                                          Carney needs to grow a pair. I’ve had enough of him not saying anything. We voted for elbows up, not subservience. I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

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                                          canconda@lemmy.ca
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                                          I’m also an NDP voter that voted LPC over CPC. I knew we wouldn’t get Value(s) Carney, but I do believe that if anyone is going to shift capitalism in a better direction it would be him.

                                          As a former bouncer I completely disagree that silence is a sign of weakness or subservience. That’s just good tact. Never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

                                          Elbows Up doesn’t mean you should draw a penalty. You’re supposed to hit them hard and get away with it.

                                          As far as the DST. I find it interesting that a tax we never collected is being framed as a loss we deserve compensation for.

                                          A month ago I thought bills C-2 & C-5 were overreach, and their lack of oversight definitely is… I wrote several letters to that effect. But given the continuation of Trumps annexation rhetoric, I now recognize those bills were designed for a political environment that is still burgeoning.

                                          Based on Trumps usage of ICE I believe it’s inevitable that the USA will use domestic crossings to affect some form of hybrid war against Canada. Russia & China will certainly occupy northern Canada if we don’t rapidly expand our national infrastructure.

                                          These threats, I believe, do justify deprioritizing environmental concerns, to a degree.

                                          I think the silver lining is that Carney’s energy expansion in to oil/gas is not mutually exclusive with expanding renewable energy.

                                          I also sold mortgages for a short time and saw the industry change more in 24 months than 24 years. I agree that the least harmful economic solution to housing is to freeze housing prices where they are until cost of living and supply normalize. The alternative of housing prices drop would have a net negative effect. The CMHC in 2014 & 15 made major changes to reduce Canadian borrowing power to avoid a post mortgage crisis of mass defaults like what we saw in the USA.

                                          I think the world is too volatile right now to expect concrete plans that aren’t heavily hedged. Carney is playing the game correctly by holding Canada’s cards close and not telling his bluffs.

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