Trump threatens 35% tariffs on Canada starting Aug. 1
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Carney needs to grow a pair. I’ve had enough of him not saying anything. We voted for elbows up, not subservience. I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.
He wants housing prices to remain elevated, you dont get that by cutting off your supply of USD.
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He’s a banker. He’s on capitalism’s side, not the people’s.
His literally said housing prices shouldn’t fall, even though he have a world leading housing bubble that threatens to bring down our entire economy. This level of mismanagement is how communist countries are created.
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I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.
The U.S. temporarily ended trade talks in late June over Canada’s digital services tax, but the federal government moved to drop the tax just days later and negotiations resumed.
That’s not an answer
Edit: Fuckstick being caved to is poor negotiation.
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So are we gonna get a TACO pool going… everyone bet which day Trump caves and winner takes all.
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Carney can’t decide if he wants elbows up or not. In fact, he flipflops so much, he looks like hes doing the chicken dance.
What are some examples? The DST is postponed as trade leverage which is still ongoing. I haven’t seen him flop flop on anything yet, and he hasn’t been PM for long enough to see how anything had played out. He seems very calculated and has been getting great results so far within Canada and internationally.
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That’s not an answer
Edit: Fuckstick being caved to is poor negotiation.
Can you explain to me how the US cancels trade talks over the DST, Canada drops the DST, and the US resumes trade talks in response to the dropped DST is not the answer to the question “What did we get for the DST removal?”?
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Yes, and apparently they include 35% tariffs across the board now. So the question remains, what did we get for dropping the DST?
The trade talks have “included tariffs” the entire time, and the question does not remain because we got trade talks with the US reopened after dropping the DST that the US cancelled after we implemented it.
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Can you explain to me how the US cancels trade talks over the DST, Canada drops the DST, and the US resumes trade talks in response to the dropped DST is not the answer to the question “What did we get for the DST removal?”?
Resuming trade talks when the US created the mess, getting something in return from the orange one. What did we get?
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Resuming trade talks when the US created the mess, getting something in return from the orange one. What did we get?
I am not going to argue with you over your own opinion regarding what it means to “get something” in a trade talk.
Fact is the US ended all trade negotiations over the DST, meaning we won’t discuss trading any further, until Canada dropped the DST and the US reopened negotiations. Which means “ability to negotiate trade again” is literally “what we got”.
I am sorry that is not good enough for you, but that is what happened and you can verify it through basically any source.
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The trade talks have “included tariffs” the entire time, and the question does not remain because we got trade talks with the US reopened after dropping the DST that the US cancelled after we implemented it.
So he acts like a child and we are supposed to be honoured that he came back to the table? These aren’t trade talks. They are extortion and this fucking clown ripped up HIS OWN AGREEMENT.
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So he acts like a child and we are supposed to be honoured that he came back to the table? These aren’t trade talks. They are extortion and this fucking clown ripped up HIS OWN AGREEMENT.
I sincerely do not care about any of this. I was simply answering a question.
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I sincerely do not care about any of this. I was simply answering a question.
Yeah and poorly at that.
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Less trade with the US the better
Hopefully he actually follows through
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Carney needs to grow a pair. I’ve had enough of him not saying anything. We voted for elbows up, not subservience. I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.
I’m also an NDP voter that voted LPC over CPC. I knew we wouldn’t get Value(s) Carney, but I do believe that if anyone is going to shift capitalism in a better direction it would be him.
As a former bouncer I completely disagree that silence is a sign of weakness or subservience. That’s just good tact. Never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Elbows Up doesn’t mean you should draw a penalty. You’re supposed to hit them hard and get away with it.
As far as the DST. I find it interesting that a tax we never collected is being framed as a loss we deserve compensation for.
A month ago I thought bills C-2 & C-5 were overreach, and their lack of oversight definitely is… I wrote several letters to that effect. But given the continuation of Trumps annexation rhetoric, I now recognize those bills were designed for a political environment that is still burgeoning.
Based on Trumps usage of ICE I believe it’s inevitable that the USA will use domestic crossings to affect some form of hybrid war against Canada. Russia & China will certainly occupy northern Canada if we don’t rapidly expand our national infrastructure.
These threats, I believe, do justify deprioritizing environmental concerns, to a degree.
I think the silver lining is that Carney’s energy expansion in to oil/gas is not mutually exclusive with expanding renewable energy.
I also sold mortgages for a short time and saw the industry change more in 24 months than 24 years. I agree that the least harmful economic solution to housing is to freeze housing prices where they are until cost of living and supply normalize. The alternative of housing prices drop would have a net negative effect. The CMHC in 2014 & 15 made major changes to reduce Canadian borrowing power to avoid a post mortgage crisis of mass defaults like what we saw in the USA.
I think the world is too volatile right now to expect concrete plans that aren’t heavily hedged. Carney is playing the game correctly by holding Canada’s cards close and not telling his bluffs.
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I’m also an NDP voter that voted LPC over CPC. I knew we wouldn’t get Value(s) Carney, but I do believe that if anyone is going to shift capitalism in a better direction it would be him.
As a former bouncer I completely disagree that silence is a sign of weakness or subservience. That’s just good tact. Never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Elbows Up doesn’t mean you should draw a penalty. You’re supposed to hit them hard and get away with it.
As far as the DST. I find it interesting that a tax we never collected is being framed as a loss we deserve compensation for.
A month ago I thought bills C-2 & C-5 were overreach, and their lack of oversight definitely is… I wrote several letters to that effect. But given the continuation of Trumps annexation rhetoric, I now recognize those bills were designed for a political environment that is still burgeoning.
Based on Trumps usage of ICE I believe it’s inevitable that the USA will use domestic crossings to affect some form of hybrid war against Canada. Russia & China will certainly occupy northern Canada if we don’t rapidly expand our national infrastructure.
These threats, I believe, do justify deprioritizing environmental concerns, to a degree.
I think the silver lining is that Carney’s energy expansion in to oil/gas is not mutually exclusive with expanding renewable energy.
I also sold mortgages for a short time and saw the industry change more in 24 months than 24 years. I agree that the least harmful economic solution to housing is to freeze housing prices where they are until cost of living and supply normalize. The alternative of housing prices drop would have a net negative effect. The CMHC in 2014 & 15 made major changes to reduce Canadian borrowing power to avoid a post mortgage crisis of mass defaults like what we saw in the USA.
I think the world is too volatile right now to expect concrete plans that aren’t heavily hedged. Carney is playing the game correctly by holding Canada’s cards close and not telling his bluffs.
holding Canada’s cards close and not telling his bluffs.
That’s what the “just tell us what you’re doing in the negotiations” crowd seems to miss.
It would be colossally stupid to put out a press release that tells the other players what cards you’re holding, and what your planned strategy is.
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So fucken true!! Really disappointed in Carney so far. He’s not standing up to Trump, doing everything in secret, no updates. Paying American companies for military equipment (night vision), not cancelling the fighter jets order, begging the abuser to trade with us while we’re giving shit up left right and centre. Fuck this!! But PP and cons would not be better.
doing everything in secret, no updates.
Do you think it would be beneficial for him to put out a press release saying what aces he has up his sleeve, what the plan is to counter Trump’s next move, or any other parts of the negotiations?
Do you think the Americans won’t love to learn those things?
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holding Canada’s cards close and not telling his bluffs.
That’s what the “just tell us what you’re doing in the negotiations” crowd seems to miss.
It would be colossally stupid to put out a press release that tells the other players what cards you’re holding, and what your planned strategy is.
Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
- Sun Tzu
Those people also don’t appreciate that in the context of Trumps unpredictability no publicly made plans would remain unchanged.
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doing everything in secret, no updates.
Do you think it would be beneficial for him to put out a press release saying what aces he has up his sleeve, what the plan is to counter Trump’s next move, or any other parts of the negotiations?
Do you think the Americans won’t love to learn those things?
He should be making weekly statements to Canadians, I thought we were in an emergency or crisis and Carney get elected then clams TF up. Could be vague but he should be communicating with Canada and giving us a status update. Actually Carney should just fucking walk away.
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This letter has to be one of the greatest rage-bait posts ever. Trump really know how to do it.
the United States of America has agreed to continue working with Canada, despite Canada having financially retaliated against the United States
Barely and only after he swung the first blow and started shit over nothing, yeah.
the United States imposed Tariffs on Canada to deal with our National Fentanyl crisis, which is caused, in part, by Canada’s failure to stop the drugs from pouring into our Country.
“In part” meaning less than a single percent. “Failure to stop” meaning a massive increase in border presence and fentanyl seizures.
Instead of working with the United States
See above, we implemented border security measures to appease the charade of Fentanyl being an issue.
there will be no Tariff if Canada, or companies within your Country, decide to build or manufacture product within the United States
Perfect! Let’s just make ourselves the States’ little bitch, completely reliant on them for everything and with no details on how much production we even have to move over so that he can just say we didn’t fulfill our part of the bargain whenever he wants. Why wouldn’t we do that? Jesus H Christ.
Canada charges extraordinary Tariffs to our Dairy Farmers — up to 400%
Two things, 1. tariffs to protect your local agriculture makes sense to not become reliant on other countries for food. 2. that “up to” is doing HEAVY lifting as those high rates are almost never in effect¹, so why do you even care. Oh right, you don’t care! This is all a sham.
¹ Source
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I’m also an NDP voter that voted LPC over CPC. I knew we wouldn’t get Value(s) Carney, but I do believe that if anyone is going to shift capitalism in a better direction it would be him.
As a former bouncer I completely disagree that silence is a sign of weakness or subservience. That’s just good tact. Never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Elbows Up doesn’t mean you should draw a penalty. You’re supposed to hit them hard and get away with it.
As far as the DST. I find it interesting that a tax we never collected is being framed as a loss we deserve compensation for.
A month ago I thought bills C-2 & C-5 were overreach, and their lack of oversight definitely is… I wrote several letters to that effect. But given the continuation of Trumps annexation rhetoric, I now recognize those bills were designed for a political environment that is still burgeoning.
Based on Trumps usage of ICE I believe it’s inevitable that the USA will use domestic crossings to affect some form of hybrid war against Canada. Russia & China will certainly occupy northern Canada if we don’t rapidly expand our national infrastructure.
These threats, I believe, do justify deprioritizing environmental concerns, to a degree.
I think the silver lining is that Carney’s energy expansion in to oil/gas is not mutually exclusive with expanding renewable energy.
I also sold mortgages for a short time and saw the industry change more in 24 months than 24 years. I agree that the least harmful economic solution to housing is to freeze housing prices where they are until cost of living and supply normalize. The alternative of housing prices drop would have a net negative effect. The CMHC in 2014 & 15 made major changes to reduce Canadian borrowing power to avoid a post mortgage crisis of mass defaults like what we saw in the USA.
I think the world is too volatile right now to expect concrete plans that aren’t heavily hedged. Carney is playing the game correctly by holding Canada’s cards close and not telling his bluffs.
Housing prices rose because we brought in 1.4 million people in a single year and tripled immigration, blaming capitalism for that seems a bit silly. Trying to implement price controls is great but how do you decide who gets the cheaper house, you’ve done nothing to improve the supply while the demand continues to increase.
