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"75% of scientific researchers in the U.S. are considering leaving the country" - must-watch if you haven't fully grasped yet the attack of Trump on US science..

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  • El DuvelleE This user is from outside of this forum
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    "75% of scientific researchers in the U.S. are considering leaving the country" - must-watch if you haven't fully grasped yet the attack of Trump on US science.. It's somehow more impactful to see actual testimonies instead of facts and numbers:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvO070E_dI

    The whole #Trump thing is sad but the long-term damage of what he is doing against research and science, not just in the US but worldwide, is horrible. Just like the damage on the planet, it is not too late to resist of and fix it though! Universities should stick together, people should come out in support of scientists, PIs should come out of their silence - as in this video - to alert the public on the ongoing destruction.

    Quoting @Nonya_Bidniss:
    https://infosec.exchange/@Nonya_Bidniss/115464536239675362

    #Science #Academia #AcademicChatter

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    • El DuvelleE El Duvelle

      "75% of scientific researchers in the U.S. are considering leaving the country" - must-watch if you haven't fully grasped yet the attack of Trump on US science.. It's somehow more impactful to see actual testimonies instead of facts and numbers:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvO070E_dI

      The whole #Trump thing is sad but the long-term damage of what he is doing against research and science, not just in the US but worldwide, is horrible. Just like the damage on the planet, it is not too late to resist of and fix it though! Universities should stick together, people should come out in support of scientists, PIs should come out of their silence - as in this video - to alert the public on the ongoing destruction.

      Quoting @Nonya_Bidniss:
      https://infosec.exchange/@Nonya_Bidniss/115464536239675362

      #Science #Academia #AcademicChatter

      Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @elduvelle @Nonya_Bidniss

      Scientists, due to the hellish employment conditions in academia, already are highly mobile and expect to work in all sorts of different cities - so why not in different countries as well?

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        @elduvelle @Nonya_Bidniss

        Scientists, due to the hellish employment conditions in academia, already are highly mobile and expect to work in all sorts of different cities - so why not in different countries as well?

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        @juergen_hubert
        Well:

        • scientists are humans too, they might have a family / friends / roots in a place and not want to leave them.
        • the current world is generally making immigration difficult and costly
        • academic jobs are hard to find in any country. At least the US had quite a lot of funding for that. The competition for jobs is even harder in most other countries.
        • once you have an established lab, which might take years to set up, having to restart from scratch somewhere else is a giant waste of time
        • each country has its own rules, language, scientific priorities etc. which may be different from those in the us

        ... and I'm sure there's a lot more that could be added to this list.

        @Nonya_Bidniss

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          @juergen_hubert
          Well:

          • scientists are humans too, they might have a family / friends / roots in a place and not want to leave them.
          • the current world is generally making immigration difficult and costly
          • academic jobs are hard to find in any country. At least the US had quite a lot of funding for that. The competition for jobs is even harder in most other countries.
          • once you have an established lab, which might take years to set up, having to restart from scratch somewhere else is a giant waste of time
          • each country has its own rules, language, scientific priorities etc. which may be different from those in the us

          ... and I'm sure there's a lot more that could be added to this list.

          @Nonya_Bidniss

          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @elduvelle @Nonya_Bidniss

          Speaking from my own experience, the scientists who get to stay in one place with their family / friends / roots are very lucky, and very rare.

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