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6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way again

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  • B barneypiccolo@lemmy.today

    That’s okay, I haven’t trusted America in decades, and I’m American. Canadians are wise to be mistrustful of our GOVERNMENT. Most of the people are mostly cool. It’s just the MAGAs you have to hide your kids from.

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    merc@sh.itjust.works
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    #96

    As someone who has MAGA relatives in the US, most of the people are definitely not mostly cool. His die-hard supporters may only be about 35% of the population (which is huge) but there’s at least another 15% who are sympathetic to the whole movement. At most, 50% of the population is mostly cool, the other half is mostly very uncool.

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    • S slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works

      I’ve had beef with them ever since they dressed up in redface and threw a bunch of perfectly good tea into the Boston harbour. Quite rude, and they never apologized for it.

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      merc@sh.itjust.works
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      #97

      Especially because they were doing it to protect their smuggling profits, not out of some great and noble cause.

      Ungrateful sods too, because a lot of the war debt that the tariffs were meant to pay off were the result of beating the French on the American continent so that it could be settled by English colonists. Ever wonder why so many places in the US have French names? Detroit, Louisville, St. Louis, Lafayette, Reno (a.k.a. Renault), Arkansas, Illinois…

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      • S slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works

        I’ve had beef with them ever since they dressed up in redface and threw a bunch of perfectly good tea into the Boston harbour. Quite rude, and they never apologized for it.

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        canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        #98

        Eh, I’m a pretty big fan of democracy. I kinda think I would have supported the side that wasn’t about hereditary dictatorship.

        But clearly, a lot of history has happened since then.

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        • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

          A complete overhaul is the prerequisite for this nightmare to be over.

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          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          #99

          And that overhaul is both far away and likely to be extremely painful.

          I always tell Americans to just try to get out. Failing that, it’s about surviving and not making the situation even worse in the process.

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          • B billwashere

            Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.

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            sparky@lemmy.federate.cc
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            #100

            In the sense that the government and the people are misaligned? Or is this one of those “you’re united statesian, there are 30 countries in America” takes?

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            • sparky@lemmy.federate.ccS sparky@lemmy.federate.cc

              In the sense that the government and the people are misaligned? Or is this one of those “you’re united statesian, there are 30 countries in America” takes?

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              billwashere
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              #101

              The first. I don’t even know what the second thing is. 🤷

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              • quick_snail@feddit.nlQ quick_snail@feddit.nl

                They need to define “America”

                That’s a continent. Two, actually. What does it mean to trust a land mass?

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                dom@lemmy.ca
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                #102

                You never noticed that people from the USA are called “Americans” and that many people across the world call the USA “America?”

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                • B billwashere

                  The first. I don’t even know what the second thing is. 🤷

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                  sparky@lemmy.federate.cc
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                  #103

                  Ah, Threads and some other lower quality social media are full of people making snarky comments to users from the States, saying something to the effect of “we are also in the Americas, so we’re Americans, you’re a US-ian”.

                  It all basically stems from the fact that in Spanish, the demonym for people from the US is “estadounidense” (United-Statesian) whereas “America” is used to refer to all of North and South America as a regions. People are too dumb to realise “America” has a different connotation in the two languages and it devolves into flame wars.

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                  • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

                    After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

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                    TonyOstrich
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                    #104

                    Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.

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                    • subgeniusS subgenius

                      I don’t blame them. I am (sadly) American, and I certainly don’t trust most Americans right now.

                      Edit to add: and don’t know that I ever will again.

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                      joeffect@lemmy.world
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                      #105

                      This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.

                      Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…

                      They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…

                      Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have

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                      • B burntwits@sh.itjust.works

                        I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.

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                        zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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                        #106

                        East Coast thing in my experience. Especially more rural

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                        • sparky@lemmy.federate.ccS sparky@lemmy.federate.cc

                          Ah, Threads and some other lower quality social media are full of people making snarky comments to users from the States, saying something to the effect of “we are also in the Americas, so we’re Americans, you’re a US-ian”.

                          It all basically stems from the fact that in Spanish, the demonym for people from the US is “estadounidense” (United-Statesian) whereas “America” is used to refer to all of North and South America as a regions. People are too dumb to realise “America” has a different connotation in the two languages and it devolves into flame wars.

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                          billwashere
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                          #107

                          Ah gotcha. Not sure why that would devolve into flame wars. I would want to distance myself as far as possible from anything related to the US as possible if I had a choice.

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                          • B barneypiccolo@lemmy.today

                            That’s okay, I haven’t trusted America in decades, and I’m American. Canadians are wise to be mistrustful of our GOVERNMENT. Most of the people are mostly cool. It’s just the MAGAs you have to hide your kids from.

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                            tonytonychopper@mander.xyz
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                            #108

                            Over half of the voters support what the government is doing. The US is cooked

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                            • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

                              Strange way to bring up that particular atrocity.

                              Doesn’t seem to have any bearing on the subject matter of the OP, or the commenter you’re replying to.

                              Weird.

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                              tonytonychopper@mander.xyz
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                              #109

                              The parent comment alludes to “redface”

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                              • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

                                Especially because they were doing it to protect their smuggling profits, not out of some great and noble cause.

                                Ungrateful sods too, because a lot of the war debt that the tariffs were meant to pay off were the result of beating the French on the American continent so that it could be settled by English colonists. Ever wonder why so many places in the US have French names? Detroit, Louisville, St. Louis, Lafayette, Reno (a.k.a. Renault), Arkansas, Illinois…

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                                drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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                                #110

                                Could have just not had the war…

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                                • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

                                  After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

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                                  octopusnemeses@lemmy.world
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                                  #111

                                  It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.

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                                    m0darn@lemmy.ca
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                                    #112

                                    From Mary Poppins:

                                    Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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                                    • B burntwits@sh.itjust.works

                                      How does an American pronounce it?

                                      A vast majority of the Canadians I know pronounce it the same way as “out”, “sprout”, “trout” etc.

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                                      prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      #113

                                      Like Ah-bout… “bout” pronounced like a fight between two people.

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                                      • J joeffect@lemmy.world

                                        This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.

                                        Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…

                                        They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…

                                        Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have

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                                        meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works
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                                        #114

                                        Brecht:

                                        “When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too.”

                                        No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don’t, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.

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                                        • D dom@lemmy.ca

                                          You never noticed that people from the USA are called “Americans” and that many people across the world call the USA “America?”

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                                          quick_snail@feddit.nl
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                                          #115

                                          I’ve noticed a lot of stupid people say a lot of stupid stuff in my life, yes

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