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  • Salve J. NilsenS Salve J. Nilsen

    Here's a thought experiment.

    Imagine a stamp mark with the words "Made with #AI" on it.

    If you see this mark on a picture, illustration, mobile app, song, movie, or story - do you get the notion that this product is of higher, lower or unchanged quality?

    If you see two identical products for the same price, where one has an AI mark and the other doesn't - which one would you buy?

    (Please retoot this #LLM #poll for wider reach)

    buheratorB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21
    @sjn Assuming by AI we mean LLMs, this stamp would essentially say "no one cared to think this through".
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    • Salve J. NilsenS Salve J. Nilsen

      Here's a thought experiment.

      Imagine a stamp mark with the words "Made with #AI" on it.

      If you see this mark on a picture, illustration, mobile app, song, movie, or story - do you get the notion that this product is of higher, lower or unchanged quality?

      If you see two identical products for the same price, where one has an AI mark and the other doesn't - which one would you buy?

      (Please retoot this #LLM #poll for wider reach)

      Giacinto BocciaG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @sjn
      Even it the real quality of the product/service was the same, it generally means that it is less interesting

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      • Salve J. NilsenS Salve J. Nilsen

        Here's a thought experiment.

        Imagine a stamp mark with the words "Made with #AI" on it.

        If you see this mark on a picture, illustration, mobile app, song, movie, or story - do you get the notion that this product is of higher, lower or unchanged quality?

        If you see two identical products for the same price, where one has an AI mark and the other doesn't - which one would you buy?

        (Please retoot this #LLM #poll for wider reach)

        ReayR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @sjn @cstross I understand some publishers are now marking AI-made books with a mention/logo(?) inside the cover.

        Guess who’s got two thumbs and won’t be buying AI generated books.

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        • Salve J. NilsenS Salve J. Nilsen

          Here's a thought experiment.

          Imagine a stamp mark with the words "Made with #AI" on it.

          If you see this mark on a picture, illustration, mobile app, song, movie, or story - do you get the notion that this product is of higher, lower or unchanged quality?

          If you see two identical products for the same price, where one has an AI mark and the other doesn't - which one would you buy?

          (Please retoot this #LLM #poll for wider reach)

          Victor W AllenR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #24

          @sjn While my assumption is that AI products will be of lower quality in some (not always obvious) fashion, I think that would not be the reason to avoid such a product.

          Provenance matters! An exquisitely cut gemstone with a "blood diamond" tag on it just isn't as appealing as its quality would suggest

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          • Salve J. NilsenS Salve J. Nilsen

            Here's a thought experiment.

            Imagine a stamp mark with the words "Made with #AI" on it.

            If you see this mark on a picture, illustration, mobile app, song, movie, or story - do you get the notion that this product is of higher, lower or unchanged quality?

            If you see two identical products for the same price, where one has an AI mark and the other doesn't - which one would you buy?

            (Please retoot this #LLM #poll for wider reach)

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            Cruiser 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇬🇱🇨🇦🇲🇽
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            #25

            @sjn you omitted the option 'completely useless if not for propaganda' here, sorry

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            • Francesco P Lovergine :debian:G Francesco P Lovergine :debian:

              @sjn
              The use of AI is not relevant for quality. One produces good or bad products with or without AI use.
              It is definitely dependent on the human side, whether or not her/his homework is done. Let me say that I saw shitty code produced by humans and AI, as well as good enough code.

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              @gisgeek @sjn you’re missing the point. The question isn’t whether #AI will help generate better code or not, it’s what the presence of a “made with AI” badge would have on perceived quality.

              Yes, a skilled programmer can absolutely use AI to generate even better code, for every one of them there are at least ninety-nine other goobers gleefully churning out slop as fast as their slop churning machine will go.

              This means that when I see a “made by AI” badge, there’s a 1% chance it’s quality and 99% chance it’s slop.

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              • Salve J. NilsenS Salve J. Nilsen

                Here's a thought experiment.

                Imagine a stamp mark with the words "Made with #AI" on it.

                If you see this mark on a picture, illustration, mobile app, song, movie, or story - do you get the notion that this product is of higher, lower or unchanged quality?

                If you see two identical products for the same price, where one has an AI mark and the other doesn't - which one would you buy?

                (Please retoot this #LLM #poll for wider reach)

                ulfU This user is from outside of this forum
                ulfU This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #27

                @sjn
                I’m torn, because although in general I’d assume the “made with AI” suggested lesser quality, I have seen a lot of tat made by humans where quality was not a consideration at all…

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                • Francesco P Lovergine :debian:G Francesco P Lovergine :debian:

                  @sjn It is also one (not the main) reason why none of my drawings have been published on the web by me. Sure, I could add a license and copyright (but I would probably use a CC-BY license), but that would not prevent possible abuses.
                  Of course, creators are now extremely worried about their role and future, but none did the same when CGI was introduced in cinema (and that is largely computer-generated, with no ridiculous marks).
                  So maybe people should b more ehm, coherent...

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                  @gisgeek @sjn So you won’t publish your art because you don’t want to see it abused against its copyright license, but you’re fine with using AI that ripped off millions of artists?

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