If they put half the regulation effort into booze the same way they do with cannabis we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Drunk is the only time I truly enjoy life. Life is just dredging on day after day on a work, commute, sleep pattern that makes me hope for a young death

When I drink I feel like life is supposed to feel like. I feel like little things can make me happy and I truly enjoy those little things. If it kills me, at least I died enjoying SOMETHING. I know I need to stop, but it so hard when everything else is so awful.

That being said, labels would make sense.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics, eh? Thanks for the sources!

If you would like I’d like to offer support

Why I say this: In 3 weeks it will be 10 years since my last drink, after 23 years of continual self-abuse. I fell through every crack, yet I “”“made”" it (yes triple quotes lol) and I’ve been through just about every system there is. I’m really good at listening, validating, and giving my experiences to others

I intentionally turned myself off from being a game developer and tech madman, and I now work in peer support, withdrawal management, recovery/housing mentorship etc. Because I want to be the support that was never there for me when I need it

So I’m here for you if you need me my friend. Please don’t assume that I’ll tell you what’s right for you or anything along those lines You’ll be heard

Edit I figured out that there’s direct messaging so feel free to message me privately if you’d like

Well here’s the thing though (not to invalidate what you are saying about cannabis users). I’m just saying because I work in the field of addiction, and it’s a bit of a twist on the perspective

People often have an unconscious idea that the mood altering substance drives the behavior. But it’s actually the other way around, typically the specifics of the individual’s mental health and emotional issues drive the consumption of the specific substance.

Alcohol users, for example, have generally extreme anxiety disorders. Those arise for a variety of very valid reasons. So it’s more accurate to say people who have severe anxiety, tend to self-medicate with alcohol. And people who stick with cannabis, have other issues they are running from

It’s just a little twist on perspective, that’s all. A lot of times we think about what alcohol does to people, but neglect to see that the problem preceeds the drinking

I will declare my bias, even though I am a cannabis user, I think it is a substance which most people are in heavy denial about. We are currently exiting the zeitgeist of “it’s a panacea” and finally starting to embrace the fact that it’s a very dangerous substance for most users. We can overtly see for example a drunk punching a hole in the wall, but we don’t really see in the same way, a heavy cannabis user who’s becoming emotionally non-functional and can’t govern his/her own life. Or who can no longer distinguish observable reality from the thoughts in their head.

Labels are fine but increasing the price sounds ridiculous. I don’t drink alcohol but I cook with it all the time. I don’t need an increase in my grocery bill.

I wish there were more choices of non-alcohol beers, but it’s usually a choice of one shitty brand that tastes like soap or worse. There are good non-alcohol beers, but bars and pubs seem to have no interest in them.

And they often cost as much as a regular beer, that’s one thing that puts me off them.

Same with non alcohol cocktails. They’re still $15 each.

Well it feels like more people are smoking weed than they used to.

Your rationale is I don’t want to pay more because I don’t want to.

I understand, nobody does want to pay more for things, but the way taxation is structured means every bottle has a net cost to society. That’s not a justifiable or defensible position.

And your claim that you just cook with it is highly specious.

We’ve had warning labels on cigarettes’ for ages, as a recovering alcoholic, I totally agree there should be warning labels.

What do you think about kombucha, i find it kinda itches the right spot

Can’t hurt

I think there are 0 people out there who would be surprised at that label.

Slightly inconvenient for booze manufacturers, like we care…

Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

The reality hasn’t changed, only our understanding of it.

Just go all the way and do plain packaging and ban advertising for alcohol. Addictive poison and marketing mix about as well as a tire fire and gasoline.

I like the energy, but I’m skeptical about the implementation. When the USA tried a prohibition it failed miserably, when they put surgeon general’s warnings on boxes it hardly made a difference.

But I like the energy, power to him.

Yeah, it’s like the pictures on cigarette packages. We all know it’s terrible for us, but if you’re addicted it probably won’t make a difference.

Still I’m all for it, it could help someone on the way to an addiction to think over their consumption.

Wait, this guy is still around? He would know about alcohol, he’s gotten so many DUIs, assault charges and drug possession charges, he could be the poster-child…

I’ve been trying this out myself, and I’d agree!

I’ve always found it weird alcohol doesn’t have warning labels. I guess the risks are common knowledge but still. When I buy weed online, they send info about the risks with it