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Could publicly-owned grocery stores break Canada’s grocery oligopoly?

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  • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca
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    Avid Amoeba
    wrote on last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
    #19

    Of course it will work. But it has to also do a publicly-owned distribution centre/network. Loblaw now owns a significant part the distribution side and independent grocers end up buying from Loblaw. This is a great hack that lets Loblaw say their retail margins aren’t that high, while making money before the products even enter the retail side. And of course it allows them to make money from smaller competitors.

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      washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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      We have those in America already, they are called co-ops. This is the one in my area: https://www.honestweight.coop/ and https://www.niskayunaco-op.com/ . Mamdani’s proposal isn’t bold, it’s already been done, and there is no reason why they can’t be implemented in NYC.

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      • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

        We have those in America already, they are called co-ops. This is the one in my area: https://www.honestweight.coop/ and https://www.niskayunaco-op.com/ . Mamdani’s proposal isn’t bold, it’s already been done, and there is no reason why they can’t be implemented in NYC.

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        revan343@lemmy.ca
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        This isn’t about co-ops

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        • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca
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          laffytaffy
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          I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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          • laffytaffyL laffytaffy

            I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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            outlierblue@lemmy.ca
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            Technically yes, but I’m sure the cops would show up and charge you with mischief or something. Remember, the cops are here to protect the status quo, not to protect you.

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            • P Paige

              Terrible solution.
              Break up and split the wholesale and retail operations. Legislate against wholesale pricing discrimination (Wholesale pricing cannot have price breaks which exclude smaller competitors)

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              acargitz
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              Why “terrible”? You got something against crown corporations?

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                Why “terrible”? You got something against crown corporations?

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                Paige
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                I don’t have a universal like or dislike of publicly owned companies. Expending limited resources and political capital on running a supermarket before trying any antitrust regulation is a waste of governmental resources.

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                  Lovable Sidekick
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                  #26

                  I don’t see what the backlash is about. A publicly owned store is no different from Costco, except everybody’s a member and there are no owners raking off prof-… ohhhhh, now I get it.

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                  • E e839f72a@lemmynsfw.com

                    But i heard the communist countries have fake grocery stores with plastic fruits just for show!!!

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                    Lovable Sidekick
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                    We cut out the middleman and put the plastic directly in the food.

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                    • RachelC Rachel

                      Co Ops are owned by the employees or customers/members depending on how they are setup. The article was implying it being owned by the local government like utilities and roads are.

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                      twopi@lemmy.ca
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                      The article shouldn’t be implying. It’s part of his platform.

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                      • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                        We have those in America already, they are called co-ops. This is the one in my area: https://www.honestweight.coop/ and https://www.niskayunaco-op.com/ . Mamdani’s proposal isn’t bold, it’s already been done, and there is no reason why they can’t be implemented in NYC.

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                        Victor Villas
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                        #29

                        they are called coops

                        No they are not.

                        Of course coops exist in Canada but it’s not the same thing

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                          rozodru@lemmy.world
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                          I live in Toronto, I just do all my grocery shopping in Chinatown on Spadina and the surrounding area. so much cheaper, like insanely cheaper and better stuff too.

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                          • laffytaffyL laffytaffy

                            I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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                            hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            I think if you got the right license to be an artisan producer you would be fine, might need a permit to setup a tent or something.

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                            • P Paige

                              I don’t have a universal like or dislike of publicly owned companies. Expending limited resources and political capital on running a supermarket before trying any antitrust regulation is a waste of governmental resources.

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                              hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              #32

                              Fuck Weston nationalize Loblaws. Boom running a supermarket made easy.

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                              • laffytaffyL laffytaffy

                                I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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                                StinkyFingerItchyBum
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                                The penalty for illegal price fixing food like Weston’s Bread, should be nationalization into the public fold.

                                The Weston Bakery Empire and Galen’s yacht aptly named “Bread” should be public property.

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                                  scott_of_the_arctic@lemmy.world
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                                  We need that in Norway.

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                                    ZeroOne
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                                    Ummm yes

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                                    • S scott_of_the_arctic@lemmy.world

                                      We need that in Norway.

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                                      AwesomeLowlander
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                                      God yes. The grocery selection here is horrible.

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                                      • O outlierblue@lemmy.ca

                                        Technically yes, but I’m sure the cops would show up and charge you with mischief or something. Remember, the cops are here to protect the status quo, not to protect you.

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                                        Jerkface (any/all)
                                        wrote on last edited by jerkface@lemmy.ca
                                        #37

                                        They’re here to advance the interests of the state. Which is usually the status quo, but when it’s suddenly not, shit happens.

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                                        • P Paige

                                          Terrible solution.
                                          Break up and split the wholesale and retail operations. Legislate against wholesale pricing discrimination (Wholesale pricing cannot have price breaks which exclude smaller competitors)

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                                          Jerkface (any/all)
                                          wrote on last edited by jerkface@lemmy.ca
                                          #38

                                          It’s a solution that can be implemented by powerless people on their own. I agree that the state has better means at its disposal, but they’re not going to help any time soon.

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