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The sandwich guy verdict is *not* jury nullification.

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  • humanadverbH This user is from outside of this forum
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    humanadverb
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    The sandwich guy verdict is *not* jury nullification.

    The jury had to decide if throwing a sandwich rose to the level of assault, and it just didn't.

    If the sandwich guy had thrown a brick and was found not guilty? That's jury nullification.

    This was cops pretending to be the real victims here, which is their usual lie to justify murdering poc, and a jury not playing along.

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      The sandwich guy verdict is *not* jury nullification.

      The jury had to decide if throwing a sandwich rose to the level of assault, and it just didn't.

      If the sandwich guy had thrown a brick and was found not guilty? That's jury nullification.

      This was cops pretending to be the real victims here, which is their usual lie to justify murdering poc, and a jury not playing along.

      humanadverbH This user is from outside of this forum
      humanadverbH This user is from outside of this forum
      humanadverb
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      To be clear, I'd cheer if the guy had thrown a brick and the jury nullified it.

      I've just seen NPR-liberal concern trolling about how "jury nullification was powerful tool of white supremacists in the kkk era, and I don't think we would celebrate this erosion of the rule of law just because we like the outcome."

      That's some self-defeating bullshit that needs to be refuted on its own terms, BUT ALSO that isn't what happened here.

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      • humanadverbH humanadverb

        To be clear, I'd cheer if the guy had thrown a brick and the jury nullified it.

        I've just seen NPR-liberal concern trolling about how "jury nullification was powerful tool of white supremacists in the kkk era, and I don't think we would celebrate this erosion of the rule of law just because we like the outcome."

        That's some self-defeating bullshit that needs to be refuted on its own terms, BUT ALSO that isn't what happened here.

        Brandon WebsterB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @humanadverb (you probably realize this, but I gotta say it) the problem with white supremacist juries nullifying cases against the KKK is not jury nullification, it’s that the juries were always made up of the most racist white people they could find, often moving the cases to entirely different districts to do so. Leave it to liberals to misunderstand how white supremacy works though

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          @humanadverb (you probably realize this, but I gotta say it) the problem with white supremacist juries nullifying cases against the KKK is not jury nullification, it’s that the juries were always made up of the most racist white people they could find, often moving the cases to entirely different districts to do so. Leave it to liberals to misunderstand how white supremacy works though

          humanadverbH This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by humanadverb@dice.camp
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          @bwebster Yep.

          And also subtly rewrites the history of lynching into one where the police were powerless to stop it, rather than the ones leading it.

          Which is convenient if your instincts take you from sandwich guy acquittal to "oh no police power is under threat!"

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