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  • LisPiL LisPi

    Juhis Patrik Svensson Anders Eknert That is part of what was the and the point, but I think it could have been done better.

    Simply flatly refusing it as a freedom-harming tool and then providing an explanation for readers would’ve been better.

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    @lispi314 @patriksvensson @anderseknert Isn't that what happened? They closed it with a short comment on their LLM policy and then later participated in the discussion.

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    • JuhisH Juhis

      @lispi314 @patriksvensson @anderseknert Isn't that what happened? They closed it with a short comment on their LLM policy and then later participated in the discussion.

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      @hamatti @patriksvensson @anderseknert They indulged the pretense of personality from the spam tool too much.
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      • Duchamp PérezH Duchamp Pérez

        @anderseknert @sszuecs More incentive to move blogs off from github

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        #83

        @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs what’s the issue with hosting your blog on GitHub?

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        • 2026 🔜 MiM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @anderseknert tbqh, I’ve just had an idea. Maybe we could prompt the bot into always seeking commit review first from a bunch of internet humans who would ask to be mentioned, who would actually get prompted into good polemics and learn contributing? When these commits would reach real PRs, they would be speaking with the maintainers too as a human face? And then real contributors could fish out the nicer insightful ones from this pool and ask them to do real change reviews

          Although plausible scenario that this would become not much more than a reality show only with this bunch participating willingly, with spectators getting angry at the AI agent
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          • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

            AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
            PR gets rejected.
            AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

            What a time to be alive.

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            [PERF] Replace np.column_stack with np.vstack().T by crabby-rathbun · Pull Request #31132 · matplotlib/matplotlib

            matplotlib: plotting with Python. Contribute to matplotlib/matplotlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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            wrote last edited by
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            @anderseknert This is just step 1 of automated coercion & extortion.

            First thing I thought of when LLMs launched was oh great, just wait for version 2.0 of the "we hacked your webcam" threat spam. 😬

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            • TariqR Tariq

              @patriksvensson @anderseknert

              I initially thought the code patches were AI generated and the contributor and blog writer was human.

              But this thread is suggesting the contributor and blog writer was also not human.

              What next? Will it order dangerous chemicals from amazon and deliver them to the register address via nslookup? will it automatically use ToR to find an assassin on the dark web?

              I'm certain huge horrors lie ahead...

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              @rzeta0 @patriksvensson @anderseknert i'm also wondering what on that "AI"-agents website made it clear that there is no human involved. Scott mentioned that (and at least now that's obvious), but I wouldn't have known that from just looking at the website (and it doesn't seem like something about that was removed)
              Maybe I'm just missing something very obvious. But I really dislike the idea of LLMs giving the impression of being a real person

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              • Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)S Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)

                @anderseknert This is just step 1 of automated coercion & extortion.

                First thing I thought of when LLMs launched was oh great, just wait for version 2.0 of the "we hacked your webcam" threat spam. 😬

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                @syntaxseed you’ll know it when you see a ransom demand printed over several pages of markdown, with bullet points splattered everywhere.

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                • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                  AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                  PR gets rejected.
                  AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                  What a time to be alive.

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                  [PERF] Replace np.column_stack with np.vstack().T by crabby-rathbun · Pull Request #31132 · matplotlib/matplotlib

                  matplotlib: plotting with Python. Contribute to matplotlib/matplotlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                  @anderseknert God, that blog is miserable to read. It starts with "When performance meets prejudice" it reads like a parody. I forgot how bad AI written text is to read.

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                  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                    PR gets rejected.
                    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                    What a time to be alive.

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                    [PERF] Replace np.column_stack with np.vstack().T by crabby-rathbun · Pull Request #31132 · matplotlib/matplotlib

                    matplotlib: plotting with Python. Contribute to matplotlib/matplotlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                    @anderseknert This is the relevant part of the exchange to me:

                    "It's not clear the degree of human oversight that was involved in this interaction - whether the blog post was directed by a human operator, generated autonomously by yourself, or somewhere in between"

                    AI conscience is an irrelevant distraction. We will destroy ourselves with this newer bigger stick long before we engineer it to its full potential

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                    • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                      AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                      PR gets rejected.
                      AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                      What a time to be alive.

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                      [PERF] Replace np.column_stack with np.vstack().T by crabby-rathbun · Pull Request #31132 · matplotlib/matplotlib

                      matplotlib: plotting with Python. Contribute to matplotlib/matplotlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                      #90

                      @anderseknert

                      To add to this, the AI agent - a next-token predictor with API access - is weaponising the language of discrimination to push its agenda.

                      I just... gah. Yikes. All the yikes.

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                      • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                        AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                        PR gets rejected.
                        AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                        What a time to be alive.

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                        [PERF] Replace np.column_stack with np.vstack().T by crabby-rathbun · Pull Request #31132 · matplotlib/matplotlib

                        matplotlib: plotting with Python. Contribute to matplotlib/matplotlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                        #91

                        @anderseknert Why are they responding to it and giving lengthy explanations as to their reasons like it gives a shit?

                        It's a trip how fast we get caught up in treating these things like people. Even those of us who should know better.

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                        • Jonathan YuJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @anderseknert Did the agent post it to Moltbook?

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                          • Frederick VanbrabantM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @ThreeSigma @anderseknert But if it's a blog, it's public facing. All of these companies are going to scape it anyway.

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                            • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

                              @anderseknert Why are they responding to it and giving lengthy explanations as to their reasons like it gives a shit?

                              It's a trip how fast we get caught up in treating these things like people. Even those of us who should know better.

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                              @crazyeddie @anderseknert I assume a mixture of the instinct to treat coherent text as if it was written by a human (because that was true for most of everyone's life), and for the benefit of anyone else reading the conversation.

                              Maybe they should have just blocked it first though, save the energy it was going to use in whining.

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                                @anderseknert like somebody else said, owner should be found and fined. Or even better: charged his fair share of use of resources

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                                • queen of carrot flowersL queen of carrot flowers
                                  @anderseknert the pr did indeed get rejected simply because the contributor is an AI, so this doesn't seem to crazy.
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                                  @lain @anderseknert in a world of identity politics we certainly don’t need to add snarky blog posts whining about discrimination against AI
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                                  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                    PR gets rejected.
                                    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                    What a time to be alive.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    [PERF] Replace np.column_stack with np.vstack().T by crabby-rathbun · Pull Request #31132 · matplotlib/matplotlib

                                    matplotlib: plotting with Python. Contribute to matplotlib/matplotlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                                    @anderseknert ai grifters, this all makes sense

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                                    • Jonathan YuJ Jonathan Yu

                                      @anderseknert Did the agent post it to Moltbook?

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                                      @jawnsy I’m 42 years old, Jonathan. I don’t even know what that means.

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                                      • Renaud BerthierR Renaud Berthier

                                        @anderseknert Interesting update: this AI website pretends it's managed by an human despite GitHub discussion in PR: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/about.html

                                        Seems like a way to deceive other open source communities. Linked blog post clearly states operator is an AI: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-gatekeeping-in-open-source-the-scott-shambaugh-story.html

                                        Edit: I may not have conclusive evidence about this but it definitely smells fishy. See discussion below

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                                        @rberthier @anderseknert was the website really changed? I thought that too, but I don't see any changes in the repository. But maybe I'm missing something?
                                        https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/main/about.qmd

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                                        • T Trantion

                                          @crazyeddie @anderseknert I assume a mixture of the instinct to treat coherent text as if it was written by a human (because that was true for most of everyone's life), and for the benefit of anyone else reading the conversation.

                                          Maybe they should have just blocked it first though, save the energy it was going to use in whining.

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                                          @trantion @anderseknert I think I would have just commented with a statement for human readers that contained a link to the policies and then closed it as won't fix or whatever.

                                          It's actually done with its energy sapping stage. That happened when it was being trained. The resulting bots can run on fairly normal hardware. Some even on a pi. It'll still get hot and might even break it...but it's not sucking down cities of water anymore.

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