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  • broadfern@lemmy.worldB broadfern@lemmy.world

    When you’re done with your first playthrough, get Revision and The Nameless Mod.

    I believe Revision is available on steam but if not, both are on ModDB.

    Also, don’t be afraid to explore, learn your play style (it’s meant to be stealth heavy but run-and-gun is also an option), and don’t sink all your skill points into swimming lmao.

    The tutorial (“training” option in the main menu) is pretty fun and will get you familiarized with all your basics and tips pretty nicely.

    I may have strong nostalgia glasses on but the mechanics still hold up really well and it’s still one of my favorites of all time. I have it on at least 3 platforms and regularly gift it to friends/family when it’s on sale.

    I’ve played some of the 4th game but it’s not the same feel really, more akin to Watchdogs ime. The second game got review bombed on release but seems like a decent game from what I’ve heard from other fans. I have it but haven’t played it yet, probably should lol.

    Thanks for reading my text wall 😅 /gen

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    loresoong@startrek.website
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    I’m asking for everyone’s ted talk on the game, this was more than reasonable lengthwise.

    I usually skip tuts so again this was very helpful. not sure what Is meant by the swimming comment but I’m guessing that’s an inside joke Ill understand later. my play style Is usually exploration and movement based. I’m always looking for nooks and crannies for bits of lore or resupplies. from what you said I might have to put in multiple play-through to really get the full experience, as well as trying your modding suggestions.

    there is definitely something to be said about nostalgia goggles but to be honest going back and playing the games from my childhood (and older titles like this) there’s just something missing from modern gaming that makes it feel mildly soulless. my next game on my backlog is Thief, and I just recently replayed the original Half-Life so All aboard the nostalgia train. o7

    I appreciate your input on the more recent titles. Im even more skeptical now since a fan such as yourself hasn’t felt the urge to continue the series the game probably stands on its own, and any addition may hinder or sour the original experience.

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      If you go in treating it like a standard FPS, you will be punished pretty hard until you level up for it. Stealth is really the best route for the beginning of the game. It’s a lot more brutal than the newer ones.

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      loresoong@startrek.website
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      I’m pretty good at FPS games is it impossible or just unreasonable? am I limited by ammunition or my health pool and cover opportunities?

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        I’m pretty good at FPS games is it impossible or just unreasonable? am I limited by ammunition or my health pool and cover opportunities?

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        It might be borderline impossible? The accuracy of the weapons is heavily tied to your character skills, and even if you start off relatively good in guns, the accuracy is still wild as hell at anything beyond point blank ranges.

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        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥T This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥

          it’s meant to be stealth heavy but run-and-gun is also an option

          Not OP but I generally start missions in stealth mode and end in shoot everything that moves mode.

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          loresoong@startrek.website
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          Is that because you failed the stealth checks or simply out of frustration lol? Is the stealth more rewarding like a puzzle? does it give any benefits at all? like for example some games will give lore dumps when hiding from basic enemies. I’m a huge fan of when games use background conversations as exposition.

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            It might be borderline impossible? The accuracy of the weapons is heavily tied to your character skills, and even if you start off relatively good in guns, the accuracy is still wild as hell at anything beyond point blank ranges.

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            loresoong@startrek.website
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            probably too deep of a question. but is there logic to the inaccuracy that i can compensate for? or is it seemingly full RNG? based on what you’re saying I’m guessing its full RNG

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              People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

              Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

              what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

              Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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              ramble81@lemmy.zip
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              Definitely get GMDX. They just released a new version a couple months ago. Lots of gameplay tweaks and a serious overhaul of textures. Definitely makes it worth playing.

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              • R ramble81@lemmy.zip

                Definitely get GMDX. They just released a new version a couple months ago. Lots of gameplay tweaks and a serious overhaul of textures. Definitely makes it worth playing.

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                loresoong@startrek.website
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                awesome! looking for stuff just like this. out of curiosity Will reading the game play tweaks prior to playing spoil anything? also are there any major changes from the original works or is it purely aesthetic/QOL? Im worried im going to have a skyrim situation again where modders are just adding/changing things that do not fall within those categories.

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                  awesome! looking for stuff just like this. out of curiosity Will reading the game play tweaks prior to playing spoil anything? also are there any major changes from the original works or is it purely aesthetic/QOL? Im worried im going to have a skyrim situation again where modders are just adding/changing things that do not fall within those categories.

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                  ramble81@lemmy.zip
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                  Shouldn’t spoil anything and if you go with the defaults you’ll get pretty much the stock story just with better graphics and QOL tweaks. It’s been a couple years since I last played it but was getting ready to do another run through with the newest version.

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                  • L loresoong@startrek.website

                    People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

                    Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

                    what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

                    Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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                    die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                    wrote on last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                    #13

                    For your first playthrough, use Zero Rando. GMDX and Revision change the game a lot.

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                    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                      For your first playthrough, use Zero Rando. GMDX and Revision change the game a lot.

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                      loresoong@startrek.website
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                      Odd, another user just stated that GMDX is more or less just a graphics and QOL overhaul. I might just have to read through the changes and decide for myself. I purposefully havent looked this stuff up myself to avoid spoilers, I might just have to bite the bullet.

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                      • R ramble81@lemmy.zip

                        Shouldn’t spoil anything and if you go with the defaults you’ll get pretty much the stock story just with better graphics and QOL tweaks. It’s been a couple years since I last played it but was getting ready to do another run through with the newest version.

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                        loresoong@startrek.website
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                        #15

                        Im getting conflicting info on this, another user is telling me that GMDX changes too much. Probably just going to have to read the changes for each suggested mod. Im just worried im going to read something that might otherwise have been a very interesting moment within gameplay.

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                        • L loresoong@startrek.website

                          I’m pretty good at FPS games is it impossible or just unreasonable? am I limited by ammunition or my health pool and cover opportunities?

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                          thesambassador@lemmy.world
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                          Without points in gun skills, it will take a very long time to aim each shot. It’s not really a FPS skill issue, but more that your ability to do things are heavily influenced by how you build your character.

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                          • broadfern@lemmy.worldB broadfern@lemmy.world

                            When you’re done with your first playthrough, get Revision and The Nameless Mod.

                            I believe Revision is available on steam but if not, both are on ModDB.

                            Also, don’t be afraid to explore, learn your play style (it’s meant to be stealth heavy but run-and-gun is also an option), and don’t sink all your skill points into swimming lmao.

                            The tutorial (“training” option in the main menu) is pretty fun and will get you familiarized with all your basics and tips pretty nicely.

                            I may have strong nostalgia glasses on but the mechanics still hold up really well and it’s still one of my favorites of all time. I have it on at least 3 platforms and regularly gift it to friends/family when it’s on sale.

                            I’ve played some of the 4th game but it’s not the same feel really, more akin to Watchdogs ime. The second game got review bombed on release but seems like a decent game from what I’ve heard from other fans. I have it but haven’t played it yet, probably should lol.

                            Thanks for reading my text wall 😅 /gen

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                            justOnePersistentKbinPlease
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                            Human Revolution suffers tremendously from the corporate decision to outsource the boss fights. To the point that you have to level up an fps character or the first fight is hell.

                            As i recall the devs themselves said they regret that decision.

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                            • T thesambassador@lemmy.world

                              Without points in gun skills, it will take a very long time to aim each shot. It’s not really a FPS skill issue, but more that your ability to do things are heavily influenced by how you build your character.

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                              loresoong@startrek.website
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                              that actually sounds very rewarding. I often cheese game mechanics due to skill or advanced movement and don’t even realize it till I watch another player or just happen upon the original solution. being physically nerfed and slowly being allowed to use my actual skills sounds like a well made system to me.

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                              • J justOnePersistentKbinPlease

                                Human Revolution suffers tremendously from the corporate decision to outsource the boss fights. To the point that you have to level up an fps character or the first fight is hell.

                                As i recall the devs themselves said they regret that decision.

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                                loresoong@startrek.website
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                                #19

                                does the story and game play make up for this shortcoming? also with that in mind would it viable to play a full run and gun play through on my first go of that game?

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                                  Odd, another user just stated that GMDX is more or less just a graphics and QOL overhaul. I might just have to read through the changes and decide for myself. I purposefully havent looked this stuff up myself to avoid spoilers, I might just have to bite the bullet.

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                                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                  #20

                                  GMDX has a huge number of gameplay and balance changes. Here are some of them: https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Give_Me_Deus_Ex_(Mod)

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                                  Review of GMDX (mod which aims at modernizing Deus Ex) | Deus Ex

                                  Since its original release, Deus Ex is one of my favorite games, that I replay every couple of years. My first playthrough was on Normal mode, where I used every means possible to get through the game, not caring whether I was stealthy or aggressive. Later playthroughs were on harder

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                                  I can try to grab some excerpts without spoilers…

                                  GMDX offers new player mechanics, refined AI behavior, reworked weapon mechanics, rebalanced RPG elements, enhanced artistic direction, expanded level design, overhauled audio design, new interactions and simulated effects, improved user interface, and hundreds of bug fixes.

                                  Messing with the design of Deus Ex may quickly hurt the experience. And that is what GMDX does.

                                  In early areas, the changes that GMDX makes are minor, which is the reason for my early positive feeling on GMDX. In later areas, however, there are radical changes. The aim seems to have been to increase the difficulty. And it succeeds at that: the difficulty of GMDX is certainly quite a lot higher than the difficulty of Deus Ex. But higher difficulty does not make for a better game. That is particularly true because of the reasons why the game is more difficult with GMDX.

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                                  • L loresoong@startrek.website

                                    People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

                                    Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

                                    what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

                                    Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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                                    tenacious_mucus@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Neat! That game has been on my wishlist for a long time, i still keep passing on it whenever it’s on sale…one day i’ll actually pull the trigger. It’s nice reading all these replies about various mods and things keeping the game ‘current’!

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                                    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                      GMDX has a huge number of gameplay and balance changes. Here are some of them: https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Give_Me_Deus_Ex_(Mod)

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                                      Review of GMDX (mod which aims at modernizing Deus Ex) | Deus Ex

                                      Since its original release, Deus Ex is one of my favorite games, that I replay every couple of years. My first playthrough was on Normal mode, where I used every means possible to get through the game, not caring whether I was stealthy or aggressive. Later playthroughs were on harder

                                      favicon

                                      VideoGameGeek (videogamegeek.com)

                                      I can try to grab some excerpts without spoilers…

                                      GMDX offers new player mechanics, refined AI behavior, reworked weapon mechanics, rebalanced RPG elements, enhanced artistic direction, expanded level design, overhauled audio design, new interactions and simulated effects, improved user interface, and hundreds of bug fixes.

                                      Messing with the design of Deus Ex may quickly hurt the experience. And that is what GMDX does.

                                      In early areas, the changes that GMDX makes are minor, which is the reason for my early positive feeling on GMDX. In later areas, however, there are radical changes. The aim seems to have been to increase the difficulty. And it succeeds at that: the difficulty of GMDX is certainly quite a lot higher than the difficulty of Deus Ex. But higher difficulty does not make for a better game. That is particularly true because of the reasons why the game is more difficult with GMDX.

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                                      loresoong@startrek.website
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                                      yeah you might be right, the entire new mechanics section might be more than what im looking for. and this line alone in the review “However, my overall impression is a negative one. GMDX unbalances Deus Ex from being a fun, accessible game to being a struggle.” Might have to save that for a 2nd or 3rd playthrough

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                                      • L loresoong@startrek.website

                                        probably too deep of a question. but is there logic to the inaccuracy that i can compensate for? or is it seemingly full RNG? based on what you’re saying I’m guessing its full RNG

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                                        die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                        It’s based on the weapon skills. Definitely play the Training

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                                        • T tenacious_mucus@sh.itjust.works

                                          Neat! That game has been on my wishlist for a long time, i still keep passing on it whenever it’s on sale…one day i’ll actually pull the trigger. It’s nice reading all these replies about various mods and things keeping the game ‘current’!

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                                          loresoong@startrek.website
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                                          Im glad im not the only one getting value from this, I hope others that haven’t given the game a shot pop in and ask questions I haven’t considered or just appreciate the fact that everyone has been super helpful. it speaks to the Deus Ex community as a whole. I was half expecting comments like “why do you need our input? just play the game.” , instead “Neat!” Indeed.

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