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  • W witty_username@feddit.nl

    I’d like to add a question of my own:

    Does anyone have any recommendations when running the game under proton?

    And with a steam controller?

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    loresoong@startrek.website
    wrote on last edited by
    #49

    Ironically I’m also a Linux user I will update the post or message you directly(whichever you prefer) If i find any launch options that will optimize the experience. I don’t expect issues since the game has a plat rating on protondb https://www.protondb.com/app/6910

    cant help you with the steam controller part since I use mouse and keyboard but usually some dedicated fans create profiles for games+different controllers that you can add through steam.

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    • L loresoong@startrek.website

      People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

      Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

      what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

      Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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      pyre@lemmy.world
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      #50

      this was one of my favorite games for a long time. i disagree that it predicted everything; i think people retroactively assign predictions to it the way they do for horoscopes.

      on the contrary, i think it aged poorly, though not at all of its own fault. the problem is that it was supposed to be ridiculous—the game world is essentially the answer to “what if every conspiracy theory was true?” and it was fun to explore at the time. but after the rise of right wing conspiracy nuts and their spill into the mainstream and even governments, it doesn’t hit the same.

      now it feels like what a right wing nutjob would write. again this is not at all the fault of the game, but it feels weird now because it’s like you’re playing qanon’s game.

      this is sort of a similar phenomenon to Don’t Look Up, in my opinion. i believe at the time it was conceived the movie was supposed to be a ridiculous over-the-top satire, but by the time it was released the right wing went so insane that people just thought it was too on-the-nose.

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      • L loresoong@startrek.website

        People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

        Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

        what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

        Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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        Nomad Scry
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        #51

        I’m bad at video games so I had to use some cheats/mods to finish, but it was worth it.

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          ganryuu@lemmy.ca
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          #52

          Didn’t they end up adding stealth and/or hacking options for dealing with the bosses with a later patch? Director’s cut maybe?

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          • L loresoong@startrek.website

            People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

            Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

            what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

            Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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            neldel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            wrote on last edited by
            #53

            Played through Deus Ex earlier this year with the Lay D Denton (female protag) mod. It’s amazingly integrated & gave such a fun spin on the existing game

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            • L loresoong@startrek.website

              Im thinking I might only mod if I run into issues. From what everyone is telling me, the game is SOLID with issues like you said that are “a product of its time” i think I can handle that.

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              die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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              #54

              If you really want to go full vanilla, I noticed you’re on Linux so it actually runs ok there. But you’ll still want Vanilla Fixer for the more modern renderer, launcher, and high frame rate fix.

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              There are some huge bugs in the vanilla game though (Vanilla Fixer only does compatibility fixes not gameplay fixes). For example if you start a new game while in a game your inventory will become seriously broken. Before starting a new game you either need to restart the program, or enter the training first and start the new game from there (because starting training clears your inventory).

              Also vanilla does NOT have autosave. When the game says SAVING when traveling maps that’s actually only for the purpose of traveling back to the old maps and you cannot load from that if you die. Get used to that quicksave button or rebind it, but also make hard saves just in case!

              Also vanilla will not allow you to save during infolinks (radio calls). Not a huge deal for a first time playthrough if you aren’t rushing.

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              • kugmo@sh.itjust.worksK kugmo@sh.itjust.works

                Just use the high framerate fix .dll, Kenties launcher (do not cap framerate in this or else it will cause pauses when you open your inventory, use an external fps limiter if needed), enhanced OpenGL or DX11 renderer and the music/maps fix. Do not use GMDX/Revision or any other mod for a first playthrough, you should also level up swimming.

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                die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                #55

                Vanilla Fixer does all of those things automatically, except the music/maps fix

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                • L loresoong@startrek.website

                  I’m pretty good at FPS games is it impossible or just unreasonable? am I limited by ammunition or my health pool and cover opportunities?

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                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                  #56

                  It’s not impossible or unreasonable. But I think the game is most fun when you play a mix of stealth and shooting, depending on situations, especially as your character gets stronger.

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                  • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                    It’s not impossible or unreasonable. But I think the game is most fun when you play a mix of stealth and shooting, depending on situations, especially as your character gets stronger.

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                    loresoong@startrek.website
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                    #57

                    okay, Ill try and keep that in mind I really like what Im hearing about the stat progression. usually action rpgs do not make that very interesting

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                    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                      If you really want to go full vanilla, I noticed you’re on Linux so it actually runs ok there. But you’ll still want Vanilla Fixer for the more modern renderer, launcher, and high frame rate fix.

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                      There are some huge bugs in the vanilla game though (Vanilla Fixer only does compatibility fixes not gameplay fixes). For example if you start a new game while in a game your inventory will become seriously broken. Before starting a new game you either need to restart the program, or enter the training first and start the new game from there (because starting training clears your inventory).

                      Also vanilla does NOT have autosave. When the game says SAVING when traveling maps that’s actually only for the purpose of traveling back to the old maps and you cannot load from that if you die. Get used to that quicksave button or rebind it, but also make hard saves just in case!

                      Also vanilla will not allow you to save during infolinks (radio calls). Not a huge deal for a first time playthrough if you aren’t rushing.

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                      loresoong@startrek.website
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #58

                      After reading everyone’s comments again, I think Im going to drop in your zero rando mod it seems like it has the same vanilla fixes and the type of very light QOL I’m looking for. my apologies for being flippant I was quite tired yesterday.

                      Thanks for your contributions to this game and then commenting on my thread as with seemingly zero expectations of recognition from me or anyone else. I probably wouldn’t have noticed had Coelacanth@feddit.nu not called you out. kinda badass not gunna lie.

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                      • neldel@lemmy.blahaj.zoneN neldel@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        Played through Deus Ex earlier this year with the Lay D Denton (female protag) mod. It’s amazingly integrated & gave such a fun spin on the existing game

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                        loresoong@startrek.website
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #59

                        Sweet, might have to give that a spin. Is it a total story rework or just a replaces the MC? with stat changes and skills etc?

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                        • L loresoong@startrek.website

                          After reading everyone’s comments again, I think Im going to drop in your zero rando mod it seems like it has the same vanilla fixes and the type of very light QOL I’m looking for. my apologies for being flippant I was quite tired yesterday.

                          Thanks for your contributions to this game and then commenting on my thread as with seemingly zero expectations of recognition from me or anyone else. I probably wouldn’t have noticed had Coelacanth@feddit.nu not called you out. kinda badass not gunna lie.

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                          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                          #60

                          Haha thanks, have fun with it! Deus Ex is good for many playthroughs even without mods, hundreds with mods.

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                          • Nomad ScryN Nomad Scry

                            I’m bad at video games so I had to use some cheats/mods to finish, but it was worth it.

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                            loresoong@startrek.website
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #61

                            no offense, but was It a puzzle problem or reactions and movement? Ive been known to miss the most obvious puzzle solutions so I might have to cheat a bit as well assuming I get frustrated enough.

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                            • P pyre@lemmy.world

                              this was one of my favorite games for a long time. i disagree that it predicted everything; i think people retroactively assign predictions to it the way they do for horoscopes.

                              on the contrary, i think it aged poorly, though not at all of its own fault. the problem is that it was supposed to be ridiculous—the game world is essentially the answer to “what if every conspiracy theory was true?” and it was fun to explore at the time. but after the rise of right wing conspiracy nuts and their spill into the mainstream and even governments, it doesn’t hit the same.

                              now it feels like what a right wing nutjob would write. again this is not at all the fault of the game, but it feels weird now because it’s like you’re playing qanon’s game.

                              this is sort of a similar phenomenon to Don’t Look Up, in my opinion. i believe at the time it was conceived the movie was supposed to be a ridiculous over-the-top satire, but by the time it was released the right wing went so insane that people just thought it was too on-the-nose.

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                              loresoong@startrek.website
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #62

                              That’s funny, Its crazy that so many over the top works satire become reality. Your example also reminds me of Idiocracy the Mike Judge movie. Ill have to check that out too, I haven’t even heard of Don’t Look Up till now.

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                              • L loresoong@startrek.website

                                no offense, but was It a puzzle problem or reactions and movement? Ive been known to miss the most obvious puzzle solutions so I might have to cheat a bit as well assuming I get frustrated enough.

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                                Nomad Scry
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #63

                                Reactions. I liked playing stealth but there came a point where I couldn’t figure out how to avoid the fire fights and then I just died and died and died.

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                                • L loresoong@startrek.website

                                  People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.

                                  Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition

                                  what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?

                                  Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!

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                                  slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca
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                                  #64

                                  Oh man. I remember playing this game as a kid. It was awesome. I should.play it again.

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                                  • L loresoong@startrek.website

                                    Sweet, might have to give that a spin. Is it a total story rework or just a replaces the MC? with stat changes and skills etc?

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                                    neldel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #65

                                    Model replacement, voice acting update (uses line stitching for existing npc voices - I didn’t notice anything that drew me out of it), and a fully voiced protagonist. She does a great job! Voice Showcase

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