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  • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

    I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
    The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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    @sil The thing is, AI might have some benefits, it might be useful, but it will NEVER live up to the investment hype. The yearly investment into AI only a little less than the entire spend on software engineering. In order for AI to pay for itself, next year, every software developer is unemployed. Not "vibe coding"...unemployed. Mangers just say to chat gpt "make MS word" and then a product is launched some minutes later.

    This is magical thinking, it will not happen. But this is what these VCs have bought into...so...when it doesn't happen, someone is going to be left holding the 1.5 trillion dollar bag.

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    • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

      I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
      The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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      mausmaloneM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @sil And yet - this is probably the most in-touch thing we've heard a CEO say about AI in a while.

      The wild thing is that it comes through even in this short quote that he sees the public adopting AI as a moral good, with all the facts pointing contrary to it. We "have to" do something useful with AI because time is running out on getting people to accept it which is a thing we "have to" do because .....?

      Because tech CEOs have deluded themselves into thinking that's inherently a good thing.

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      • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

        I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
        The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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        @sil I suspect that now that Google is seriously getting into the game (with "AI" enabled adtech obviously), xAI further enshittifying social media etc., Satya is trying to differentiate (we are after responsible, economically useful AI), a bit like Apple for a while played the privacy card.

        But it is indeed awkward because good applications don't grow on trees. They oversold LLM's (using the undeniable "wow" factor) in an incredible (for such large entities) fake-it-till-you-make it strategy.

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        • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

          I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
          The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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          Matt MayM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sil This genuinely sounds like something a businessman would say about coke around 1980, while high off his face. Paranoid, deluded, desperate to manufacture consent to continue. Addict behavior.

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          • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

            I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
            The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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            @sil He hears Madame Defarge's knitting needles.

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            • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

              I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
              The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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              @sil psychopathic way of thinking. Not "if we don't find good uses then it's immoral for us to waste energy since it's scarce", but "others who actually do have a conscience will disapprove"

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              • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                @sil They already lost my permission to burn electricity. A single Nvidia rack consumes more electricity than tens of households. This was more than an year ago, new ones are probably even worse.
                They also use water and emit noise pollution.

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                • mausmaloneM mausmalone

                  @sil And yet - this is probably the most in-touch thing we've heard a CEO say about AI in a while.

                  The wild thing is that it comes through even in this short quote that he sees the public adopting AI as a moral good, with all the facts pointing contrary to it. We "have to" do something useful with AI because time is running out on getting people to accept it which is a thing we "have to" do because .....?

                  Because tech CEOs have deluded themselves into thinking that's inherently a good thing.

                  Jason OrendorffJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mausmalone @sil YES - perceptive

                  I'm actually a little surprised at the outrage. Don't we all agree on this? isn't it in fact obvious? Maybe people are shocked to hear that Microsoft's CEO doesn't claim to believe AI has already paid its dues. But if he did, wouldn't that be bullshit? Are we now shocked by CEOs bullshitting marginally less?

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                  • Jason OrendorffJ Jason Orendorff

                    @mausmalone @sil YES - perceptive

                    I'm actually a little surprised at the outrage. Don't we all agree on this? isn't it in fact obvious? Maybe people are shocked to hear that Microsoft's CEO doesn't claim to believe AI has already paid its dues. But if he did, wouldn't that be bullshit? Are we now shocked by CEOs bullshitting marginally less?

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                    @mausmalone @sil To my mind the main thing wrong with the statement is what is missing: the collateral damage he probably never thinks about - deepfake propaganda, the ensloppification of the internet, the loss of trust (which is the real capital of societies)

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                    • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                      I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                      The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                      @sil

                      This feels like lowkey propaganda by the CEO. He's trying to bolster the fantasy that their goal with AI is actually "improving health and education outcomes".

                      It's clear at this point that AI isn't capable of any of that, but he wants us to believe he genuinely believes it could be and that that's his goal.

                      In reality they just want to pump this bubble as large as it goes.

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                      • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                        I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                        The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                        @sil Just remember: Those are the guys who think of themselves as absolute geniuses, far above the levels of us ordinary mortals.
                        Yeah, geniuses. Right.

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                        • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                          I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                          The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                          @sil there are always better words than "impactful."

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                          • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                            I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                            The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                            @sil if AI were anything like a "cognitive amplifier" then how did Satya end up in this position? Wouldn't his amplified cognition provide him with all the ideas he needs??

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                            • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                              I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                              The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                              @sil It's funny watching them try to come up with shit to tell us they think we might believe. It's like they ran out of ideas. We just let them get so stupid with it they have nowhere to go. Maybe there actually is a bottom?

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                              • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                                I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                                The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                                Nadella: it's only a bubble if tech company partnerships and infrastructure spending are all there is to it

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                                Microsoft CEO warns that we must 'do something useful' with AI or they'll lose 'social permission' to burn electricity on it

                                Workers should learn AI skills and companies should use it because it's a "cognitive amplifier," claims Satya Nadella.

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                                PC Gamer (www.pcgamer.com)

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                                  @sil if AI were anything like a "cognitive amplifier" then how did Satya end up in this position? Wouldn't his amplified cognition provide him with all the ideas he needs??

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                                  @fartnuggets @sil

                                  "AI, find me all the ways to get blood out of this stone"

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                                    @fartnuggets @sil

                                    "AI, find me all the ways to get blood out of this stone"

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                                    @thevhswizard @sil "Sure, here's a short video no one likes, to put on a platform filled with hate and rage, in order to feel _anything_ while society collapses! Oh, I also had to accelerate climate collapse just a little bit to do it. You're welcome! ✨"

                                    "Can I help reinforce your psychosis now? Or would you like me to ask you again soon?"

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                                    • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                                      I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                                      The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                                      @sil

                                      OH you little darling, you are SO close to seeing something beautiful that you don't want to see

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                                      • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                                        I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                                        The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                                        @sil
                                        I don't recall ever giving permission?

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                                        • Stuart LangridgeS Stuart Langridge

                                          I couldn't believe that PC Gamer headline was a proper reflection of what was said, but... it was.
                                          The thing which most annoys me is that they seem to believe they have a right to do a damaging thing (which they acknowledge is damaging) in the hope that they might find something impactful to do with it (which they acknowledge they haven't, yet) because there's currently a lot of hype about it, and the only time limit on this is "find something before the hype runs out".

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                                          @sil so generating AI slop, filling the internet with misinformation and damaging creative industries wasn't the goal?....

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