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My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

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  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

    My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

    I'm glad you asked.

    "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

    If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

    Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

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    wrote last edited by
    #47

    @vkc

    I searched for and blocked ICE on Bluesky BECAUSE I'd seen posts here saying the blocklist is public. (I have a BS account, but only use it to follow, not to post).

    Yes, this involves some (probably remote) risk to myself. But a. I wanted to stand up and be counted and b. the more people on that blocklist, the harder it is to analyse and use the data.

    So yes, be aware the blocklist is public. But this doesn't necessarily mean don't block. Especially if you're outside the US

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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

      I'm glad you asked.

      "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

      If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

      Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

      h0h0kamH This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #48

      @vkc Bsky can f$#k all the way off.

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      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

        My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

        I'm glad you asked.

        "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

        If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

        Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

        Maho Pacheco 🦝🍻M This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #49

        @vkc I can see this to be one of the data points for agencies like border control and FBI

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        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

          My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

          I'm glad you asked.

          "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

          If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

          Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

          AntiA This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #50

          @vkc bsky are the baddies now?

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          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

            My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

            I'm glad you asked.

            "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

            If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

            Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

            mega mushroomM This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #51

            @vkc wow ive never thought of that its such a good point o_O

            My main problem with blocks being public is that if the one whos blocked has bpd abandonment issues then knowing they are blocked could kill them...

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            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

              My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

              I'm glad you asked.

              "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

              If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

              Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

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              wrote last edited by
              #52

              @vkc I have always found it very weird to have a blocklist public. Some thing has always smelled a bit with Bluesky for me.
              Anyho.

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              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.

                And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. ❤

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                wrote last edited by
                #53

                @vkc

                Also, newbies or returnees: it's gotten better since you left! Cool new features!

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                • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                  I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.

                  And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. ❤

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                  #54

                  @vkc I want to second this & maybe raise the volume on it, as I definitely am glad to see more people here, including from any platform, so if I spot you as a full newbie or returner, feel free to ask me anything on things here& if I can't help you direct, odds are I can & will refer you to someone who can!

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                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                    My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

                    I'm glad you asked.

                    "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

                    If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

                    Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #55

                    @vkc It's a metric, public or not, captured by the server. Not looked at, sold to others, doesn't matter, they can be bent in any number of directions and magnified with AI. Everyone will have to stand by their own metrics.

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                    • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

                      @Wraithe @vkc @niko I don't know. I just read the protocol and see that it can't hide who you block. If people are upset that a public list they made is being made available to the public then I'm going to feel really stupid here having said anything at all.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #56

                      @crazyeddie @Wraithe @vkc @niko It's not blocklists, it's the ability for someone with a basic plugin/extension/whathaveyou to look at any given account and see at least some of the block data. I know people over there with plugins that show block counts of people interacting with them, stuff like that. Nothing to do with published blocklists.

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                      • Come On Giant Asteroid!V Come On Giant Asteroid!

                        @vkc

                        It's a #Mastodon instance that went bad and people are moving. It happens. That the owners of the instance in question thought that They Were The Special Ones hardly matters.

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                        #57

                        @VE2UWY @vkc i like the way you put it.
                        Keeping the connection we're demonstrating the power of the Fediverse

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                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                          I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.

                          And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. ❤

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                          #58

                          @vkc I feel that Bsky and and here serve very different purposes (at least for me) in the olden days I had carefully segregated platforms to purposes for me. the everybody wants to do the same part got to me relatively late. I am happy to sort media use cases, but I appreciate the advice, bc I had not clocked that bit (relatively new to the "dataheists-wtf-crowd")

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                          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                            I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.

                            And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. ❤

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                            #59

                            @vkc amen! (Still, I stopped mirroring my posts to Bsky as a statement)

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                            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                              My comments are littered with folks asking "why is it a problem if your blocklist is public on Bluesky?"

                              I'm glad you asked.

                              "Who you block" is a reasonable indicator of your personal alignments. If you block TERFs, you're likely trans-friendly, if not trans yourself. If you block white supremacists, you're likely in support of multiculturalism.

                              If you block government entities, well, you know how this goes.

                              Do I trust Bluesky to handle that information with care? Hell no.

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #60

                              @vkc rarely have to block on Mastodon.

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                              • Florian K.W Florian K.

                                @vkc and that's also why #ChatControl is just abysmally and morally wrong.
                                If the government (or any one entity with sufficient power over our every day life) has access to your social connections and messages you can be sure it'll only be a matter of time before they will selectively restrict minorities...

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                                @winkelmesser @vkc

                                ... and everyone else whose opinions and actions they dislike.

                                Chatcontrol is right out of the authoritarian playbook 101 and must be stopped.

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                                • The Polish DispatchT The Polish Dispatch

                                  @vkc As a European I would 'wear' such public blocks as a badge of honour, but I am not on bluesky.

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                                  #62

                                  @ThePolishDispatch This. I subscribed to several block lists against democracy-destroying people, and even had no idea that ICE was accepted. But I have the privilege to live in Europe.

                                  On the other hand: they could abuse blocklists if only some protesters were subscribed. If massed would do it ...

                                  @vkc

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                                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                    I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.

                                    And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. ❤

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                                    #63

                                    @vkc

                                    There's a very simple solution for those who really want or need to remain connected to the #activitypub and the #atproto at the same time. That's called #Wafrn, https://wafrn.net/. And you know exactly what's visible on both protocols if you read carefully the documentation.

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