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Why FitGirl won't die: The repacker millions of gamers depend on in an age of surveillance

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  • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    If you ever get back into it, look into jackett. Consolidates a large number of trackers (some some setup) which makes life so much easier.

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    peruvian_skies@sh.itjust.works
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    I prefer Prowlarr personally but yes Jackett is great.

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    • A auli@lemmy.ca

      Is this why steam is so insanely slow to download games.

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      kieron115@startrek.website
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      Could be a variety of things but yes. It also depends on the game and how compressible it’s assets are.

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      • P potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br

        I use it all the time on linux, what problems did you have?

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        anguo
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        I mainly had trouble on the steam deck, in the early days. Most people recommended unpacking on a windows PC and transferring the files back then. It might be easier now, but it is more trouble than a game dump.

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        • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

          Note plenty FitGirl repacks are lossless; as in, she isn’t taking less important files out of the game, she’s compressing it better. 90GB→35GB seems accurate; you often see ~1/3 of the original size, like this. And it shows plenty game devs

          1. do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression.
          2. give no flying fucks about players, who might have really slow connections.

          And then those same developers get amazed at the fact FitGirl is so popular. “Maybe we’re doing something wrong? …nah.”

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          Cethin
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          #51

          The thing about compression is you have to process it to decompress it. It may be benificial to people with limited bandwidth, or for peer-to-peer sharing, but it’s probably better for most users for someone like Valve to share the uncompressed version. Bandwidth isn’t the issue it used to be.

          It also makes progressive updates harder. The best you can do is compress each update individually, not the whole package.

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          • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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            Why FitGirl won't die: The repacker millions of gamers depend on in an age of surveillance

            Ask almost any PC gamer from Asia to South America, and they will tell you the same thing: FitGirl is the one name in piracy that everyone recognises

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            hollownaught@lemmy.world
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            Yesterday I tried to mod persona 4 golden on Linux. After a couple hours of headaches and some help from the developer, I finally managed to fix the problem and launch persona aaaaand denuvo shut it down.

            Denuvo literally shut down my legal version of P4G because I used one too many versions of proton. This is why I support fitgirl

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            • hollownaught@lemmy.worldH hollownaught@lemmy.world

              Yesterday I tried to mod persona 4 golden on Linux. After a couple hours of headaches and some help from the developer, I finally managed to fix the problem and launch persona aaaaand denuvo shut it down.

              Denuvo literally shut down my legal version of P4G because I used one too many versions of proton. This is why I support fitgirl

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              vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Same thing happened to me with Street fighter 6. I was just trying to get it to run and kept switching proton versions and it got locked.

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              • A auli@lemmy.ca

                This implies fitgirl is doing it properly. Which it’s trade off faster download longer install times or vice versa.

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                tatterdemalion@programming.dev
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                Decompression during install is generally less of a bottleneck than network bandwidth, so fitgirl is doing it properly.

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                • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                  Ask almost any PC gamer from Asia to South America, and they will tell you the same thing: FitGirl is the one name in piracy that everyone recognises

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                  periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca
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                  Folks here are like “everyone uses it. Eventually all gamers realize it’s better”

                  Me, having never even heard of this in my 30 years of gaming: 🫣

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                  • Gary GhostG Gary Ghost

                    If you can afford it

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                    Might be a better option, or least send the devs some support while using repacks. It’s sort of like a thrift store when you find something you really wanted maybe a game you didn’t even know of, and it means a lot more because it feels like finding a treasure.

                    I actually didn’t know that the whole point of fitgirl was for compression, I’ve been blessed with massive hard drives. I think I took my 4tb ssd for granted. Not everyone has even an extra $5 .

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                    Leon
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                    #56

                    If you can afford it. Might be a better option, or least send the devs some support while using repacks.

                    Honestly, I think this is a case-by-case basis. I don’t weep for EA losing money when people acquire The Sims for example. The people that did the heavy lifting already got paid, and the less money that’s going into the Trump Empire and Saudi Arabian pockets the better.

                    That’s almost besides the point, though. We’re living in a time where if you buy something you for the most part don’t own it. Buy an EV? Then the battery is rented. Buy an iPhone? You don’t get to choose what software or hardware to put in it, only Apple batteries are acceptable else your screen/camera/faceID array will magically stop working. Android phones are barking down the same route.

                    Buy an eBook/Audiobook from Amazon? Well they can edit and redact it whenever they please. A film from iTunes? DRMed, bound to die whenever Apple decides to no longer support your platform. Video game? You get a license to run the software, nothing more.

                    There are studios I feel happy supporting, ones that treat their customers and their workers right. Don’t think a single one of them is a AAA studio though. Like, why should I pay Bethesda when they don’t pay their musicians?

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                    • P potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br

                      I use it all the time on linux, what problems did you have?

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                      harmbugler
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                      EA: please take it out of the game.

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                      • P periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca

                        Folks here are like “everyone uses it. Eventually all gamers realize it’s better”

                        Me, having never even heard of this in my 30 years of gaming: 🫣

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                        mourningdove@lemmy.zip
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                        Same. I had no idea what the title meant at all. Interesting though.

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                          Why FitGirl won't die: The repacker millions of gamers depend on in an age of surveillance

                          Ask almost any PC gamer from Asia to South America, and they will tell you the same thing: FitGirl is the one name in piracy that everyone recognises

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                          sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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                          I used fit girl for a game I didn’t know if my first pc build would run a game I wanted to buy. It didn’t work, I upgraded my pc and tried it again and then it worked.

                          I’m glad they are around now that I’m trying to learn about pc gaming.

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                            I used fit girl for a game I didn’t know if my first pc build would run a game I wanted to buy. It didn’t work, I upgraded my pc and tried it again and then it worked.

                            I’m glad they are around now that I’m trying to learn about pc gaming.

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                            Lemminary
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                            Same here. The problem was that I needed more RAM. 🙃

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                              Why FitGirl won't die: The repacker millions of gamers depend on in an age of surveillance

                              Ask almost any PC gamer from Asia to South America, and they will tell you the same thing: FitGirl is the one name in piracy that everyone recognises

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                              harvey656@lemmy.world
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                              Wait fitgirl is actually a female? Been using those repacks for a very long time. A legend among the scene.

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                              • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                                Note plenty FitGirl repacks are lossless; as in, she isn’t taking less important files out of the game, she’s compressing it better. 90GB→35GB seems accurate; you often see ~1/3 of the original size, like this. And it shows plenty game devs

                                1. do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression.
                                2. give no flying fucks about players, who might have really slow connections.

                                And then those same developers get amazed at the fact FitGirl is so popular. “Maybe we’re doing something wrong? …nah.”

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                                slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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                                do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression

                                I’ve installed one game from FitGirl so far. It took three hours to unpack while hammering all the cpu cores, failed, and required another three-hour go to install properly.

                                So you’re saying that all games should install like this?

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                                • Gary GhostG Gary Ghost

                                  If you can afford it

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                                  Might be a better option, or least send the devs some support while using repacks. It’s sort of like a thrift store when you find something you really wanted maybe a game you didn’t even know of, and it means a lot more because it feels like finding a treasure.

                                  I actually didn’t know that the whole point of fitgirl was for compression, I’ve been blessed with massive hard drives. I think I took my 4tb ssd for granted. Not everyone has even an extra $5 .

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                                  arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  I don’t know which stores exactly are listed there. But at least with some shady key resellers, piracy might actually be better than buying from them according to some indie devs: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48908726

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                                  • InfiniteGlitchM InfiniteGlitch

                                    They crack, she repacks

                                    This is just not true. Both DODI and ElAmigos are Repackers.

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                                    Mugita Sokio
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                                    ElAmigos repacks are actually pretty good from my experience.

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                                    • P potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br

                                      For the setup:

                                      Final Edit: The wine prefix is the same for the games and the installer, just a windows subsystem that has all the dependencies.

                                      First I install the wine-cachyos package, create a WINEPREFIX variable for the folder i want to put the prefix in, then i run winecfg to start the prefix, then I install the dotnet packages and vcredist packages through (before, when the repos existed) these links for the vcredist and dotnet (maybe archive.org or somewhere else still have the executables), or using winetricks too, but these are nicer to use as they install everything in one go.

                                      Then I install the dxvk and vkd3d (you can install through lutris, so this is kinda useless hahaha).

                                      Then I run the fitgirl repack through lutris and click to install the vcredist or .net when asked.

                                      Then I just run the game with a runner or wine-cachyos.

                                      I’ll update this with valid links when I find them.

                                      Edit: last time I used this and this, installing just the .net runtimes, not directx, java, silverlight, etc.

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                                      slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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                                      winetricks should be able to install all of those dependencies, including versions of .net and vcredist. But it’s a terminal script, so requires the environment variables that Wine uses for the paths and stuff.

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                                      • A apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca

                                        What’s your process for running the unpacker executable? Maybe it depends on the game, but I set up a wineprefix through Lutris and always seem to run into issues getting it to complete properly without any unpacking errors.

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                                        Mizu
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                                        Here are some tips for FitGirl installers on linux:

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                                        Hi fellow Linux users, I just built a new rig and am issues with installing large fitgirl repacks. My specs Ryzen 7 7800x3d Rtx 4070 ti super 32 gigs of ddr5 RAM Linux mint 22.1 Lutris with wine version: ge-8-26x86_64 I am trying to install FFXVI on an SSD with plenty of free space. I can get to about 90% of unpacking before I get an error saying I ran out of memory. I made sure to check the box in the installer to limit RAM use, I also had my system monitor up to monitor it and my RAM usage never got to 100%. Looking at other posts, it seems like using a windows VM is my best option because I have had missing files on other games that successfully installed. Just wanted to see if there’s another solution or if I should just use a windows VM. Thanks! EDIT: I forgot that a while back I made an external USB windows to go drive. I used that to unpack the game then move it over to my Linux drive. That worked with no issues unpacking

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                                        • G grimy@lemmy.world

                                          Proton can handle the game files but not the installer. So you have to install in wine and it’s a hassle. I install the games on my windows pc, zip them and then transfer them to my deck.

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                                          slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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                                          At that point perhaps it’s easier to just not use FitGirl’s releases.

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