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  3. @woof@aria.dog @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org @jaz@mastodon.iftas.org I don't know you, and you literally just wrote fiction about me---so that makes you distrustful.

@woof@aria.dog @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org @jaz@mastodon.iftas.org I don't know you, and you literally just wrote fiction about me---so that makes you distrustful.

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  • Neodog with Glasses Plushie :neodog_glasses: :waow: W Neodog with Glasses Plushie :neodog_glasses: :waow:

    @atomicpoet @iftas @jaz https://mastodon.social/@fedilore/114967268236516005

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    @atomicpoet @iftas @jaz Anyway, you stand with people whose staff said they want to kill feminists with AK-47, then tried to make the evidence disappear, and pretend the guy wasn’t part of the paid staff.

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    • Neodog with Glasses Plushie :neodog_glasses: :waow: W Neodog with Glasses Plushie :neodog_glasses: :waow:

      @atomicpoet @iftas @jaz Anyway, you stand with people whose staff said they want to kill feminists with AK-47, then tried to make the evidence disappear, and pretend the guy wasn’t part of the paid staff.

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      wrote last edited by atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
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      @woof@aria.dog IFTAS Jaz (IFTAS) Neat—you’re citing someone else who just made things up.

      Let me repeat what I’ve said before: I wasn’t part of that conversation between WelshPixie and Kainoa. I wasn’t present. Even the screenshot confirms I was a non-participant. So I can’t speak to whether it was real or not.

      Was Kainoa lying or telling the truth? I don’t know. Only Kainoa and WelshPixie can answer that.

      What I do know is that I’ve always liked Kainoa. I donated over $1,000 to support his work on Firefish/Calckey—including after that whole flame war. And if he were still developing Fediverse software, I’d probably still be donating.

      As for Eris’ server? I didn’t defederate her. She defederated mine—after I asked her to post an anti-racist statement. Her response? Defederation.

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        @woof@aria.dog IFTAS Jaz (IFTAS) Neat—you’re citing someone else who just made things up.

        Let me repeat what I’ve said before: I wasn’t part of that conversation between WelshPixie and Kainoa. I wasn’t present. Even the screenshot confirms I was a non-participant. So I can’t speak to whether it was real or not.

        Was Kainoa lying or telling the truth? I don’t know. Only Kainoa and WelshPixie can answer that.

        What I do know is that I’ve always liked Kainoa. I donated over $1,000 to support his work on Firefish/Calckey—including after that whole flame war. And if he were still developing Fediverse software, I’d probably still be donating.

        As for Eris’ server? I didn’t defederate her. She defederated mine—after I asked her to post an anti-racist statement. Her response? Defederation.

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        @atomicpoet @woof You've got to understand that this is the wrong answer, right?

        You partnered with Kainoa. You did Firefish.social together.

        You should have the guts to say that you believe Kainoa.

        You should have the guts to clearly reject WelshPixie, the person who made those obviously homophobic and transphobic attacks against your partner in a successful campaign to destroy the project that *you* were working on.

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        • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

          @atomicpoet @woof You've got to understand that this is the wrong answer, right?

          You partnered with Kainoa. You did Firefish.social together.

          You should have the guts to say that you believe Kainoa.

          You should have the guts to clearly reject WelshPixie, the person who made those obviously homophobic and transphobic attacks against your partner in a successful campaign to destroy the project that *you* were working on.

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          @atomicpoet @woof It's just so far beyond the pale to call a queer man a "cocksucker" in reference to a trans woman, and then pretend that queer man just made it up?

          If that happened to my partner, in an attempt to destroy a project that I was working on with them, I would stand the fuck up against that obvious harassment.

          I would call the people involved out.

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          • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

            @atomicpoet @woof It's just so far beyond the pale to call a queer man a "cocksucker" in reference to a trans woman, and then pretend that queer man just made it up?

            If that happened to my partner, in an attempt to destroy a project that I was working on with them, I would stand the fuck up against that obvious harassment.

            I would call the people involved out.

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            @atomicpoet @woof And if a guy who was funding and promoting this nonsense tried to talk to *me* about getting "attacked", I would have the guts to tell him to deal with his own shit before talking to anyone else.

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            • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

              @atomicpoet @woof And if a guy who was funding and promoting this nonsense tried to talk to *me* about getting "attacked", I would have the guts to tell him to deal with his own shit before talking to anyone else.

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              @atomicpoet @woof You've got to understand why Firefish.social has a 70% score on TBS and atomicpoet.org has a 0% score, right?

              You didn't really have to deal with that stalking and harassment campaign, directly.

              The 18 year-old queer guy you were partnered with did.

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              • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                @atomicpoet @woof You've got to understand why Firefish.social has a 70% score on TBS and atomicpoet.org has a 0% score, right?

                You didn't really have to deal with that stalking and harassment campaign, directly.

                The 18 year-old queer guy you were partnered with did.

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                The Fedilore Otter 🦦 @woof@aria.dog You’re asking me to confirm a conversation took place when I wasn’t a witness to it? I can’t—that would be a lie.

                Regardless, after that event happened, I worked hard to get firefish.social off many blocklists. I successfully accomplished most of that—though not all because, by that point, certain people were not going to remove firefish.social regardless.

                Also, I definitely had to deal with a stalking and harassment campaign. Lots of death threats came at me. So much so that I stopped talking about the Fediverse for almost a year.

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                  The Fedilore Otter 🦦 @woof@aria.dog You’re asking me to confirm a conversation took place when I wasn’t a witness to it? I can’t—that would be a lie.

                  Regardless, after that event happened, I worked hard to get firefish.social off many blocklists. I successfully accomplished most of that—though not all because, by that point, certain people were not going to remove firefish.social regardless.

                  Also, I definitely had to deal with a stalking and harassment campaign. Lots of death threats came at me. So much so that I stopped talking about the Fediverse for almost a year.

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                  @atomicpoet @woof I am asking you to say that you believe Kainoa. The person that you personally knew, and your partner on that project.

                  I am asking you to say that you don't believe the bigot with the long history of anti-queer harassment on fedi, who was (at that time) leading the harassment campaign against you as well.

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                  • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                    @atomicpoet @woof I am asking you to say that you believe Kainoa. The person that you personally knew, and your partner on that project.

                    I am asking you to say that you don't believe the bigot with the long history of anti-queer harassment on fedi, who was (at that time) leading the harassment campaign against you as well.

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                    @atomicpoet @woof There was never any evidence that Kainoa faked anything.

                    You're allowed to stand up for the gay teenager you're working with, when they're being attacked out of nowhere by some forty-year-old bigot from the UK.

                    It's not normal to demand some impossible standard of proof from victim of a coordinated harassment campaign.

                    You have always been allowed to just trust Kainoa.

                    That is the normal thing to do.

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                    • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                      @atomicpoet @woof There was never any evidence that Kainoa faked anything.

                      You're allowed to stand up for the gay teenager you're working with, when they're being attacked out of nowhere by some forty-year-old bigot from the UK.

                      It's not normal to demand some impossible standard of proof from victim of a coordinated harassment campaign.

                      You have always been allowed to just trust Kainoa.

                      That is the normal thing to do.

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                      The Fedilore Otter 🦦 @woof@aria.dog Unlike you, I actually know what happened. Unless you spoke to Kainoa directly, everything else is just hearsay.

                      Blaming the death of firefish.social on WelshPixie is inaccurate. I’m sure plenty of people want that to be true—but the reality is messier. The server collapsed due to a mix of technical and financial issues, not any single person.

                      And for the record, when I have a conflict with someone, I reach out privately first. I don’t believe in dragging people publicly without warning—though, admittedly, I don’t always get the same courtesy in return.

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                        The Fedilore Otter 🦦 @woof@aria.dog Unlike you, I actually know what happened. Unless you spoke to Kainoa directly, everything else is just hearsay.

                        Blaming the death of firefish.social on WelshPixie is inaccurate. I’m sure plenty of people want that to be true—but the reality is messier. The server collapsed due to a mix of technical and financial issues, not any single person.

                        And for the record, when I have a conflict with someone, I reach out privately first. I don’t believe in dragging people publicly without warning—though, admittedly, I don’t always get the same courtesy in return.

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                        @atomicpoet @woof @fedilore no one mentioned the death of firefish until you brought it up; as for the actual topic, you kept insisting over and over that you *didn’t* know what happened, “only kainoa and wp know”, and in another instance you straight up said that Kainoa lied.

                        Just all up really weasily behavior. You’ll say anything to avoid showing support for the queer community it seems

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                          @atomicpoet @woof @fedilore no one mentioned the death of firefish until you brought it up; as for the actual topic, you kept insisting over and over that you *didn’t* know what happened, “only kainoa and wp know”, and in another instance you straight up said that Kainoa lied.

                          Just all up really weasily behavior. You’ll say anything to avoid showing support for the queer community it seems

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                          @zensaiyuki @woof @fedilore Nope, never said Kainoa lied. For all I know, he might be telling the truth. Point is, I can’t verify a conversation that I wasn’t a witness to.
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