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  • M Malgas

    Zigmenthotep on YouTube covered F.A.T.A.L as part of their “Let’s make us a character” series. It took four episodes, in a format that is usually one-and-done.

    However bad you’ve heard the game is, I assure you it’s worse.

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    its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The only game I’ve ever played with a more complicated character creation was the 5th edition of Hero System. There were a couple of steps that resemble calculus, but once you’re done you know exactly how your character will fair in a lot of situations. If character creation was a little easier it would be my favorite superhero RPG.

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    • B bane_killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      Magic requires you to roll to see if you say the words correctly.

      I hate this kind of realism for the sake of realism

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      archpawn@lemmy.world
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      The one thing FATAL has going for it is how terrible it is. Any improvement would make it not so perfectly horrible, and thus not as good.

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      • Z zombifrancis@sh.itjust.works

        Palladium was foundational to everything in RIFTS and it was clear the overlap was just supposed to be implied knowledge, especially from the later rulebooks.

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        jarix@lemmy.world
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        It was a bit need you had to pick and choose what to do with.

        Your cyber knight with AR and SDC hitpoints is dead the second a child brings out a Wilks laser pea shooter with a full eclip

        But in an SDC environment that same cyber knight is an absolute terror.

        The world building through Erin Tarn is what makes the books entertaining even when you don’t even play it IMHO

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        • J jarix@lemmy.world

          It was a bit need you had to pick and choose what to do with.

          Your cyber knight with AR and SDC hitpoints is dead the second a child brings out a Wilks laser pea shooter with a full eclip

          But in an SDC environment that same cyber knight is an absolute terror.

          The world building through Erin Tarn is what makes the books entertaining even when you don’t even play it IMHO

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          zombifrancis@sh.itjust.works
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          I would just casually read the rule books for fun. I had binders of Palladium NPCs with mapped towns and cities.

          No campaign ever got off the ground, but it did develop my love of worldbuilding.

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          • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works

            There are people here who’ve probably never seen the greatest review of the worst RPG of all time.

            There is no God, and the proof of this can be found in a .pdf file from Fatal Games.

            And for those who don’t have time, the only thing you need to know about FATAL is this; it’s an RPG made by the kind of people who stormed the capitol on Jan 6. Horrifically racist, sexist and queerphobic, and designed by people so fundamentally stupid and lacking in curiosity that they can’t get even the most basic of design concepts right, but so utterly obsessed with the idea of their own intellectual superiority that they keep trying to reinvent every single wheel.

            Some friends and I once got drunk and made FATAL characters. After 4 hours we gave up. We still weren’t done. There’s no decisions to make, character gen is 100% random roll. It’s just so badly designed that even rolling your base attributes takes forever.

            By the point where we stopped the dice had informed me that I was playing an 8 year old lesbian prostitute, and understanding how that’s even possible reveals the depths of the awfulness at work here.

            My character was 8 because you have to roll for age, and these morons decided it was a good idea for people to be able to random roll adventurers who are literal babies. Yes, 0 years old is an option. Newborn barbarian warrior, off to save the world.

            My character was a lesbian because the dice said she was a girl, and the system said I had to roll for sexual characteristics, like breast size. Gross. Of course, the system also applied a massive downward adjustment to her breast size for being, y’know, an actual child. So she was an A cup. For those of you wondering how an 8 year was an A cup, it’s because these geniuses remembered to include an age adjustment but didn’t remember to actually include an option on the table for “I haven’t fucking hit puberty yet you disgusting perverts.”

            Anyway, the reason we’re talking about this hypothetical child’s hypothetical breast size (thanks FATAL, God you suck so much) is because you then have to roll for sexuality, and for women this is modified by breast size! I am not shitting you, this is how unbelievably fucking awful this game is. Every big titted lesbian you’ve ever met doesn’t actually exist according to FATAL. I swear to God even the Rimworld guy had more brains than this.

            And she was a prostitute because you roll for your career, but the careers all have stat minimums. Don’t meet the minimum, roll again. And being 8 gave her huge penalties to her stats, so the only career in the entire book she actually qualified for was prostitution.

            If you feel like throwing up right now I completely understand.

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            edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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            What a terrible day to be literate

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            • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works

              There are people here who’ve probably never seen the greatest review of the worst RPG of all time.

              There is no God, and the proof of this can be found in a .pdf file from Fatal Games.

              And for those who don’t have time, the only thing you need to know about FATAL is this; it’s an RPG made by the kind of people who stormed the capitol on Jan 6. Horrifically racist, sexist and queerphobic, and designed by people so fundamentally stupid and lacking in curiosity that they can’t get even the most basic of design concepts right, but so utterly obsessed with the idea of their own intellectual superiority that they keep trying to reinvent every single wheel.

              Some friends and I once got drunk and made FATAL characters. After 4 hours we gave up. We still weren’t done. There’s no decisions to make, character gen is 100% random roll. It’s just so badly designed that even rolling your base attributes takes forever.

              By the point where we stopped the dice had informed me that I was playing an 8 year old lesbian prostitute, and understanding how that’s even possible reveals the depths of the awfulness at work here.

              My character was 8 because you have to roll for age, and these morons decided it was a good idea for people to be able to random roll adventurers who are literal babies. Yes, 0 years old is an option. Newborn barbarian warrior, off to save the world.

              My character was a lesbian because the dice said she was a girl, and the system said I had to roll for sexual characteristics, like breast size. Gross. Of course, the system also applied a massive downward adjustment to her breast size for being, y’know, an actual child. So she was an A cup. For those of you wondering how an 8 year was an A cup, it’s because these geniuses remembered to include an age adjustment but didn’t remember to actually include an option on the table for “I haven’t fucking hit puberty yet you disgusting perverts.”

              Anyway, the reason we’re talking about this hypothetical child’s hypothetical breast size (thanks FATAL, God you suck so much) is because you then have to roll for sexuality, and for women this is modified by breast size! I am not shitting you, this is how unbelievably fucking awful this game is. Every big titted lesbian you’ve ever met doesn’t actually exist according to FATAL. I swear to God even the Rimworld guy had more brains than this.

              And she was a prostitute because you roll for your career, but the careers all have stat minimums. Don’t meet the minimum, roll again. And being 8 gave her huge penalties to her stats, so the only career in the entire book she actually qualified for was prostitution.

              If you feel like throwing up right now I completely understand.

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              jax@sh.itjust.works
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              I had to force myself to keep reading this.

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              • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

                I was tragically born without any common fucking decency (or maybe this is from being an unsupervised child on the early internet) but I’ve also heard the game is just horribly bad and unfun from a game design perspective.

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                burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
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                Just know that character creation is reminiscent of the oldest D&D types, where you’d roll randomly. It is possible (I read a review of the game, not the system itself, thank god) to have a negative circumference of the anus.

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                  dwemthy@lemmy.world
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                  Shouldn’t the labels be swapped? Is common decency keeping F.A.T.A.L. from pursuing players? F.A.T.A.L. is antithetical to common decency. Decency keeps players away from F.A.T.A.L.

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                  • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works

                    There are people here who’ve probably never seen the greatest review of the worst RPG of all time.

                    There is no God, and the proof of this can be found in a .pdf file from Fatal Games.

                    And for those who don’t have time, the only thing you need to know about FATAL is this; it’s an RPG made by the kind of people who stormed the capitol on Jan 6. Horrifically racist, sexist and queerphobic, and designed by people so fundamentally stupid and lacking in curiosity that they can’t get even the most basic of design concepts right, but so utterly obsessed with the idea of their own intellectual superiority that they keep trying to reinvent every single wheel.

                    Some friends and I once got drunk and made FATAL characters. After 4 hours we gave up. We still weren’t done. There’s no decisions to make, character gen is 100% random roll. It’s just so badly designed that even rolling your base attributes takes forever.

                    By the point where we stopped the dice had informed me that I was playing an 8 year old lesbian prostitute, and understanding how that’s even possible reveals the depths of the awfulness at work here.

                    My character was 8 because you have to roll for age, and these morons decided it was a good idea for people to be able to random roll adventurers who are literal babies. Yes, 0 years old is an option. Newborn barbarian warrior, off to save the world.

                    My character was a lesbian because the dice said she was a girl, and the system said I had to roll for sexual characteristics, like breast size. Gross. Of course, the system also applied a massive downward adjustment to her breast size for being, y’know, an actual child. So she was an A cup. For those of you wondering how an 8 year was an A cup, it’s because these geniuses remembered to include an age adjustment but didn’t remember to actually include an option on the table for “I haven’t fucking hit puberty yet you disgusting perverts.”

                    Anyway, the reason we’re talking about this hypothetical child’s hypothetical breast size (thanks FATAL, God you suck so much) is because you then have to roll for sexuality, and for women this is modified by breast size! I am not shitting you, this is how unbelievably fucking awful this game is. Every big titted lesbian you’ve ever met doesn’t actually exist according to FATAL. I swear to God even the Rimworld guy had more brains than this.

                    And she was a prostitute because you roll for your career, but the careers all have stat minimums. Don’t meet the minimum, roll again. And being 8 gave her huge penalties to her stats, so the only career in the entire book she actually qualified for was prostitution.

                    If you feel like throwing up right now I completely understand.

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                    tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                    I read this in the voice of Mr. Cody. That was the only way I could get through it.

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                    • B burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de

                      Just know that character creation is reminiscent of the oldest D&D types, where you’d roll randomly. It is possible (I read a review of the game, not the system itself, thank god) to have a negative circumference of the anus.

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                      dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                      5th dimensional bussy

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                      • sanctus@lemmy.worldS sanctus@lemmy.world

                        Honestly FATAL isnt even fun to read its just mad cringe. Like the most in depth look into the mind of an incel.

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                        dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                        #46

                        Yeah, basically a complete listing of the kind of “jokes” edgy internet dweebs made and then checked to see the reaction before they decided if they meant it or not.

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                          acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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                          Dude. Just try Torchlite or Ironsworn.

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                          • B burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de

                            Just know that character creation is reminiscent of the oldest D&D types, where you’d roll randomly. It is possible (I read a review of the game, not the system itself, thank god) to have a negative circumference of the anus.

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                            Walk_blesseD
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                            Brb, rolling a new character called Paul th’ Prolapsed

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                            • R RaivoKulli

                              I guess it could be sped up with a computer just generating the random character

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                              voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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                              Yes, but then you’d have to actually play FATAL, and you really don’t want that.

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                                blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                                The Cypher system is one of the most ingenious, elegant, immersive, and flexible TTRPG systems ever created and I will die on this hill. If you want to escape D&D, Cypher is the way to go.

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                                  tgirlschierke
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                                  I have a morbid fascination with it, and one of the things that keeps dragging me back to it is the very weird ways in which it is, surprisingly, progressive. FATAL makes a distinction between sex and gender (though throws it away), and also recognises asexuality as valid (despite not understanding it).

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                                  • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works

                                    There are people here who’ve probably never seen the greatest review of the worst RPG of all time.

                                    There is no God, and the proof of this can be found in a .pdf file from Fatal Games.

                                    And for those who don’t have time, the only thing you need to know about FATAL is this; it’s an RPG made by the kind of people who stormed the capitol on Jan 6. Horrifically racist, sexist and queerphobic, and designed by people so fundamentally stupid and lacking in curiosity that they can’t get even the most basic of design concepts right, but so utterly obsessed with the idea of their own intellectual superiority that they keep trying to reinvent every single wheel.

                                    Some friends and I once got drunk and made FATAL characters. After 4 hours we gave up. We still weren’t done. There’s no decisions to make, character gen is 100% random roll. It’s just so badly designed that even rolling your base attributes takes forever.

                                    By the point where we stopped the dice had informed me that I was playing an 8 year old lesbian prostitute, and understanding how that’s even possible reveals the depths of the awfulness at work here.

                                    My character was 8 because you have to roll for age, and these morons decided it was a good idea for people to be able to random roll adventurers who are literal babies. Yes, 0 years old is an option. Newborn barbarian warrior, off to save the world.

                                    My character was a lesbian because the dice said she was a girl, and the system said I had to roll for sexual characteristics, like breast size. Gross. Of course, the system also applied a massive downward adjustment to her breast size for being, y’know, an actual child. So she was an A cup. For those of you wondering how an 8 year was an A cup, it’s because these geniuses remembered to include an age adjustment but didn’t remember to actually include an option on the table for “I haven’t fucking hit puberty yet you disgusting perverts.”

                                    Anyway, the reason we’re talking about this hypothetical child’s hypothetical breast size (thanks FATAL, God you suck so much) is because you then have to roll for sexuality, and for women this is modified by breast size! I am not shitting you, this is how unbelievably fucking awful this game is. Every big titted lesbian you’ve ever met doesn’t actually exist according to FATAL. I swear to God even the Rimworld guy had more brains than this.

                                    And she was a prostitute because you roll for your career, but the careers all have stat minimums. Don’t meet the minimum, roll again. And being 8 gave her huge penalties to her stats, so the only career in the entire book she actually qualified for was prostitution.

                                    If you feel like throwing up right now I completely understand.

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                                    mourningdove@lemmy.zip
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                                    I miss the person I was prior to having read this.

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                                    • M Malgas

                                      Zigmenthotep on YouTube covered F.A.T.A.L as part of their “Let’s make us a character” series. It took four episodes, in a format that is usually one-and-done.

                                      However bad you’ve heard the game is, I assure you it’s worse.

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                                      Sas [she/her]
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                                      Ngl. I love lengthy character creation. I’d probably hate playing with such a complicated system tho… It sounds good for a sexy video game rpg tho 🤔 let the computer handle the calculations and all

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                                      • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works

                                        There are people here who’ve probably never seen the greatest review of the worst RPG of all time.

                                        There is no God, and the proof of this can be found in a .pdf file from Fatal Games.

                                        And for those who don’t have time, the only thing you need to know about FATAL is this; it’s an RPG made by the kind of people who stormed the capitol on Jan 6. Horrifically racist, sexist and queerphobic, and designed by people so fundamentally stupid and lacking in curiosity that they can’t get even the most basic of design concepts right, but so utterly obsessed with the idea of their own intellectual superiority that they keep trying to reinvent every single wheel.

                                        Some friends and I once got drunk and made FATAL characters. After 4 hours we gave up. We still weren’t done. There’s no decisions to make, character gen is 100% random roll. It’s just so badly designed that even rolling your base attributes takes forever.

                                        By the point where we stopped the dice had informed me that I was playing an 8 year old lesbian prostitute, and understanding how that’s even possible reveals the depths of the awfulness at work here.

                                        My character was 8 because you have to roll for age, and these morons decided it was a good idea for people to be able to random roll adventurers who are literal babies. Yes, 0 years old is an option. Newborn barbarian warrior, off to save the world.

                                        My character was a lesbian because the dice said she was a girl, and the system said I had to roll for sexual characteristics, like breast size. Gross. Of course, the system also applied a massive downward adjustment to her breast size for being, y’know, an actual child. So she was an A cup. For those of you wondering how an 8 year was an A cup, it’s because these geniuses remembered to include an age adjustment but didn’t remember to actually include an option on the table for “I haven’t fucking hit puberty yet you disgusting perverts.”

                                        Anyway, the reason we’re talking about this hypothetical child’s hypothetical breast size (thanks FATAL, God you suck so much) is because you then have to roll for sexuality, and for women this is modified by breast size! I am not shitting you, this is how unbelievably fucking awful this game is. Every big titted lesbian you’ve ever met doesn’t actually exist according to FATAL. I swear to God even the Rimworld guy had more brains than this.

                                        And she was a prostitute because you roll for your career, but the careers all have stat minimums. Don’t meet the minimum, roll again. And being 8 gave her huge penalties to her stats, so the only career in the entire book she actually qualified for was prostitution.

                                        If you feel like throwing up right now I completely understand.

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                                        captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                                        My favorite thing about fatal is that you can read several reviews of it, all will be summed up vety similarly, but it induces a verbose disgust that leads to every review being a distinct archive of points where each reviewer got sufficiently pissed off at the creator of the game for publishing it.

                                        For all I hear of the misogyny, of which I trust the reviewers is abundant, every review leaves me thinking that this man believes things about men that should offend the entire human species.

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                                        • tgirlschierkeT tgirlschierke

                                          I have a morbid fascination with it, and one of the things that keeps dragging me back to it is the very weird ways in which it is, surprisingly, progressive. FATAL makes a distinction between sex and gender (though throws it away), and also recognises asexuality as valid (despite not understanding it).

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                                          dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                          It’s a racist, sexist rape fantasy simulator.

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