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  • S saigot@lemmy.ca

    OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching.

    Every time they buy a new device they have to switch back to linux, because that device with very few exceptions ships with MS.

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    wrote on last edited by helios@social.ggbox.fr
    #108

    I see your point, but installing your usual linux distro on a new device is quite easier than switching to linux for the first time, which is what people don’t wanna do.

    I’ve seen it first hand recently with a friend who sought advice regarding a low budget laptop purchase for school work and multimedia use. While he was open minded about what hardware to choose, there was no convincing him to ditch Windows. I told him he’d be better off using a lightweight linux distro on such modest hardware, but he insisted on Windows 11 based on questionable arguments (“I need office”), even knowing it’d be slow, bloated, full of ads and AI features no one care for. Old habits do die hard.

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    • T Tanis Nikana

      I’m not sure. I’m a photographer and comic. I switched to mint cause it’s easy, I’m not much of a computer person.

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      WillFord27
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      #109

      Did you find mint easy? I am a bit of a computer person, and I’ve been struggling a bit with it

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      • G greencrunch@lemmy.today

        I am not sure, as I’ve actually only played it under Linux. I have a laptop with an RTX 3070. It’s able to handle the raytraced low setting at 1080p, but I just run High instead so that the fan isn’t as loud. And in my opinion that even looks pretty good. I might try start it under windows and run its benchmark because I’m curious now! I’ll update here if I remember to do this test.

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        brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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        #110

        Also, you might be able to fix that!

        I clock limit my 3090 to like 1700MHz-1750Mhz with Nvidia-smi (built into the driver) since any faster is just diminishing returns. You might check what “stable clocks” your 3070 runs at, and cap them slightlt lower, and even try an under volt as well.

        Be sure to cap the frame rate too.

        Do that, and you might be able to handle RT reflections and otherwise similar settings without much noise. The hit for just that setting is modest on my 3090 but much heavier with full “low” RT

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        • W WillFord27

          Did you find mint easy? I am a bit of a computer person, and I’ve been struggling a bit with it

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          Tanis Nikana
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          #111

          Effortless. My only issue with it was installing Plank Reloaded.

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          • T Tanis Nikana

            Effortless. My only issue with it was installing Plank Reloaded.

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            WillFord27
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            #112

            I’ve been struggling quite a bit switching file managers. Nothing is fully satisfactory

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              abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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              #113

              What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                network_switch@lemmy.ml
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                #114

                Valve put together a good product this time compared to the first steam machines push. Most games work without fuss and it’s priced well. They didn’t start the handheld PC market but they sort of Apple’ed it by taking something other companies had been doing and streamlined it enough to get mainstream copycats, Lenovo/Asus/etc. Plus SteamOS/bug picture looks a lot better today than 10 years ago. So proven market/platform that can again try to undercut Windows machines in price because Linux is free and leverages the work of open source developers

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                • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                  What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                  who
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                  #115

                  All the major desktop distros play games about as well as one another, assuming you set them up correctly.

                  Choose a distro based on other criteria, like the release cadence and admin tools that you find most comfortable. If you don’t have any particular needs or preferences, I guess you could save 10 minutes by choosing a distro that installs Nvidia drivers by default, but it’s not going to run games appreciably better than the others.

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                  • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                    11% month on month expansion is fucking crazy. You can see from the data it’s mostly Windows 10 users deciding to upgrade to Linux…and even OSX.

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                    abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                    #116

                    Would love more support for MacOS but I’m also fine turning my windows 10 rig into a Linux machine. Need recommendations on a gaming distro! AMD TR 1950 w/GTX 1080TI

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                      All the major desktop distros play games about as well as one another, assuming you set them up correctly.

                      Choose a distro based on other criteria, like the release cadence and admin tools that you find most comfortable. If you don’t have any particular needs or preferences, I guess you could save 10 minutes by choosing a distro that installs Nvidia drivers by default, but it’s not going to run games appreciably better than the others.

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                      abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                      #117

                      Not sure what you’re saying…. I download drivers for my hardware, download and install steam and my game and start playing? Or is it not that straight forward yet?

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                      • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                        Microsoft is already responding to the potential shift. The upcoming ROG Xbox Ally X handheld from Microsoft and ASUS will reportedly ship with a gaming-optimized version of Windows 11 with a dedicated Xbox UI and interface that aims to streamline the experience while boosting in-game performance and overall handheld efficiency.

                        Given how much Microsoft wants to shove AI tools every where in Windows, I don’t think this optimisation will make much of a difference.

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                        mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                        #118

                        The thing that confuses me is that Microsoft is no stranger to Linux. They use it in their data centers. It’s plainly obvious if you know what other offerings are doing.

                        Their entire front end stack for azure virtual machines is OpenStack. Some years back they integrated with OpenStack to allow it to manage hyper-v, but OpenStack can also natively manage KVM hypervisors, as it was originally designed to do, and also VMware.

                        Hell, I’d be surprised if there isn’t a Microsoft distro of Linux floating around (not available to the public… Not yet at least).

                        The people who seem to be pushing Microsoft, more than anyone, are game studios. Their garbage Anti cheat rootkits work best on Windows. So use Windows so they can low jack your PC.

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                        • Z zedotelhado@lemmy.world

                          As people already stated in the comments, this may not be a permanent change for some (they find out something like destiny 2 refuses to work on Linux without bans, some other tools needed for certain use cases are not there yet or windows only), but I think is super important people understand there are alternatives, and not only windows or Mac. Hopefully gives more people awareness that something else is out there. And would be really cool if we had more of the user base that is on the verge to throwing away the machine because of windows 11 restrictions and instead, gives machines a second chance.

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                          mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                          #119

                          All we can do is guide them. Personally, I guide them to treasure I cannot have, since I’m damn near obligated to run and deeply understand Microsoft Windows because I work for IT support.

                          All of my work tools are Windows centric.

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                          • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                            Not sure what you’re saying…. I download drivers for my hardware, download and install steam and my game and start playing? Or is it not that straight forward yet?

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                            MentalEdge
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                            #120

                            That’s exactly how straight forward it is.

                            Which distro you pick is mostly a matter of taste.

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                            • I invalidname2@lemmy.zip

                              How do you know if someone owns a Steam Deck? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

                              So anyway, a couple years ago I bought a Steam Deck. And since I bought it, virtually all of my gaming is on the Deck. Prior to that, virtually all of my game time was on a Windows PC. So, for me personally, there’s been a big shift towards Linux for gaming.

                              The other big change that’s coming for a lot of people I know: end of Windows 10 support. Honestly, the majority of people I know who still have a traditional Windows PC are using machines that can’t be upgraded to Windows 11. These computers are perfectly functional and do everything the users need them to do, and they have no inclination to go out and buy a new computer just because. Especially in this economy. Additionally, there are quite a few people with computers that are capable of running Windows 11, but they have no desire to upgrade to a worse experience and an experience that is randomly different in a myriad different ways for no good reason. Both groups are ripe for the picking in terms of a switch to Linux. No, the year of the Linux desktop is not here, but the conditions for such a change are building. And this Steam data may present a picture of the larger trend. Who knows?

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                              Pycorax
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                              The other big change that’s coming for a lot of people I know: end of Windows 10 support. Honestly, the majority of people I know who still have a traditional Windows PC are using machines that can’t be upgraded to Windows 11.

                              The average person just simply won’t upgrade. These are the people who find regular updates or shutting of their PC already a pain, what makes you think they would switch to a completely different OS?

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                              • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                                What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                                astralpath@lemmy.ca
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                                I highly recommend Nobara.

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                                • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                                  Would love more support for MacOS but I’m also fine turning my windows 10 rig into a Linux machine. Need recommendations on a gaming distro! AMD TR 1950 w/GTX 1080TI

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                                  BombOmOm
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                                  Bazzite is the go-to gaming distro. It’s basically Steam OS.

                                  I’m personally a fan of Mint (old, stable) or Fedora Plasma (cutting edge), as both feel very familiar coming from Windows. I went with Mint personally.

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                                  • MentalEdgeM MentalEdge

                                    That’s exactly how straight forward it is.

                                    Which distro you pick is mostly a matter of taste.

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                                    abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                                    If Ubuntu works, I rather stick with that. Just weird I haven’t seen anything about using that one. If I can home lab/self host and develop either gaming, that would be sweet.

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                                    • N newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip

                                      They all can upgrade to win 11. Nothing is stopping them. But you have to do a couple of steps.

                                      Either way, Linux is better and Microsoft is playing stupid games.

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                                      consumptionone@sopuli.xyz
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                                      Unless their hardware doesn’t support it. A lot of people are going to be tossing out perfectly good systems because they don’t have a TPM.

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                                      • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                                        If Ubuntu works, I rather stick with that. Just weird I haven’t seen anything about using that one. If I can home lab/self host and develop either gaming, that would be sweet.

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                                        BombOmOm
                                        wrote on last edited by bombomom@lemmy.world
                                        #126

                                        Nothing wrong with Ubuntu. If you like Ubuntu, go with Ubuntu.

                                        Just weird I haven’t seen anything about using that one.

                                        Most people don’t mention Ubuntu because they are pushing Snaps real hard, which cause issues for people. Mint is basically the same as Ubuntu, but without the stuff Ubuntu does people don’t like.

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                                        • W who

                                          All the major desktop distros play games about as well as one another, assuming you set them up correctly.

                                          Choose a distro based on other criteria, like the release cadence and admin tools that you find most comfortable. If you don’t have any particular needs or preferences, I guess you could save 10 minutes by choosing a distro that installs Nvidia drivers by default, but it’s not going to run games appreciably better than the others.

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                                          psythik@lemmy.world
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                                          #127

                                          Garuda Linux if you want something that just works out of the box, but with the power to do whatever you want. It’s basically Arch with all the gaming stuff pre-configured for you.

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