Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux
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It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them
No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.
Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.
This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards
The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake
So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.
Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?
The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control
Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you
Fuck linux
Fuck the people who promote it
That is all
The rage bait isn’t even funny anymore lmao, most used OS on the planet btw. Have fun sucking microsoft off I guess
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The rage bait isn’t even funny anymore lmao, most used OS on the planet btw. Have fun sucking microsoft off I guess
Only for servers, and of course the fact that you are dishonest about the metric just reinforces all I feel towards your ilk
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What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.
If you just want an experience as straight forward as the steam deck I have heard that the move is to just run Bazzite.
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what an extremely neurotypical way to respond to my medically induced outrage
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How is your idle VRAM (video RAM) holding? For some reason i have 1GB usage in Mint with Cinnamon without anything running, while on windows i have 400MB (although i have optimised them a lot).
400MB??? What do you have running? I never use more than 100 unless I open a game or something.
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It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them
No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.
Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.
This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards
The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake
So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.
Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?
The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control
Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you
Fuck linux
Fuck the people who promote it
That is all
I am sorry you have such passionate hatred for something a bunch of nerds tried to do for everyone else for free, to be nice. I am also sorry you have apparently not tried gaming on Linux in the past ~3 years. It can’t be comfortable having all that pent-up anger inside you.
I myself used to be like you, namely around the early 2010s when Linux distros started gaining GUIs that weren’t stuck in the 90s. Where they looked sleek and modern and oh god were they not at all, they just looked that way. I tried to make it work, but every time I had to boot back to Windows to do something I eventually just ended up staying in Windows. I can’t fathom how fucking archaic and awful it would’ve been to use in the 90s/early 00s, you tried to struggle through that for three years? I barely made it a few months with Ubuntu 10.04 in ~2010. Something I said then, and still say now to Linux dorks who don’t “get it”, is that “some of us want to work on their computer, not work on their computer.” I just want shit to work. I don’t want to troubleshoot or tweak or fiddle-fuck with settings. My OS is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself – if I’m spending more time fucking with the OS than I am using other programs on it, something has gone dearly wrong.
Having said that, I switched to Mint about a year and a half ago, and it works pretty well for me, not nearly as many headaches as I recall when I tried Linux ~15 years ago. When I printed something from a network printer and it just worked without bullshit issues, I was floored. There’s still the occasional hiccup, but then, I also had to deal with occasional hiccups on Windows as well, and the terminal isn’t nearly so scary when you’re used to dealing with the Group Policy Editor and PowerShell. I can count the times I’ve had to boot into Windows since on my fingers, it’s definitely less than 10. One of the things I think I love most is that I can choose to postpone updates, or restarting for them, as long as I want without the computer thinking it knows better than me. I got shit to do, I’ll get there when I get there – and having Windows go “nuh-uh, you’re restarting now” pissed me the fuck off.
Having said all that, I will freely admit and agree with you that a large portion of the Linux community is made up of elitist twats who will tell you to go read xyz instead of being in any way directly helpful. Nerds are not generally known for their social skills. However, it really doesn’t do anyone any favors to be needlessly inflammatory. If Windows works for you and you like it, great, I’m glad you’re happy with it. But there’s simply no reason to be so aggressive over Linux existing, especially now that it’s finally becoming tolerable even for former Linux-loathing users like me.
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If all you do is game, outside of a few key games (Destiny 2, uhh,couple others) the experience on Linux is better for many folks.
I do a lot more than that, so, hard pass.
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It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them
No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.
Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.
This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards
The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake
So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.
Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?
The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control
Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you
Fuck linux
Fuck the people who promote it
That is all
None of this actually happened, give any evidence, nobody would tell you to read a book. This is clearly fake, go to any linux support subreddit or forum and find one example of this, these are blatant lies.
or you were a huge asshole to people providing you free help so they told you to fuck off, which seems very likely.
prove me wrong by posting one example, you won’t.
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Only for servers, and of course the fact that you are dishonest about the metric just reinforces all I feel towards your ilk
nope, its the most used mobile platform as well and there are far more mobile devices than desktops.
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nope, its the most used mobile platform as well and there are far more mobile devices than desktops.
That doesn’t have any impact on desktop gaming PCs, which are the devices we are discussing here.
Again, another linux cultist who deliberately misunderstands to get their rancid 2 cents in
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None of this actually happened, give any evidence, nobody would tell you to read a book. This is clearly fake, go to any linux support subreddit or forum and find one example of this, these are blatant lies.
or you were a huge asshole to people providing you free help so they told you to fuck off, which seems very likely.
prove me wrong by posting one example, you won’t.
So, you are asking me to provide you screenshots of a usenet form from the late 90s?
What the FUCK is wrong with you?
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That doesn’t have any impact on desktop gaming PCs, which are the devices we are discussing here.
Again, another linux cultist who deliberately misunderstands to get their rancid 2 cents in
Offspec said most used OS on the planet and you said only for servers. You’re wrong its not only for servers so it is the most used OS on the planet.
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Offspec said most used OS on the planet and you said only for servers. You’re wrong its not only for servers so it is the most used OS on the planet.
What fucking community are we in?
Certainly not ‘c/SERVERGaming’
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The thing that confuses me is that Microsoft is no stranger to Linux. They use it in their data centers. It’s plainly obvious if you know what other offerings are doing.
Their entire front end stack for azure virtual machines is OpenStack. Some years back they integrated with OpenStack to allow it to manage hyper-v, but OpenStack can also natively manage KVM hypervisors, as it was originally designed to do, and also VMware.
Hell, I’d be surprised if there isn’t a Microsoft distro of Linux floating around (not available to the public… Not yet at least).
The people who seem to be pushing Microsoft, more than anyone, are game studios. Their garbage Anti cheat rootkits work best on Windows. So use Windows so they can low jack your PC.
Microsoft is moving away from allowing anything to run with those low level permissions after that CrowdStrike incident where rogue security software bricked millions of Windows PCs, so that might take out kernel anticheat as collateral damage.
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I am sorry you have such passionate hatred for something a bunch of nerds tried to do for everyone else for free, to be nice. I am also sorry you have apparently not tried gaming on Linux in the past ~3 years. It can’t be comfortable having all that pent-up anger inside you.
I myself used to be like you, namely around the early 2010s when Linux distros started gaining GUIs that weren’t stuck in the 90s. Where they looked sleek and modern and oh god were they not at all, they just looked that way. I tried to make it work, but every time I had to boot back to Windows to do something I eventually just ended up staying in Windows. I can’t fathom how fucking archaic and awful it would’ve been to use in the 90s/early 00s, you tried to struggle through that for three years? I barely made it a few months with Ubuntu 10.04 in ~2010. Something I said then, and still say now to Linux dorks who don’t “get it”, is that “some of us want to work on their computer, not work on their computer.” I just want shit to work. I don’t want to troubleshoot or tweak or fiddle-fuck with settings. My OS is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself – if I’m spending more time fucking with the OS than I am using other programs on it, something has gone dearly wrong.
Having said that, I switched to Mint about a year and a half ago, and it works pretty well for me, not nearly as many headaches as I recall when I tried Linux ~15 years ago. When I printed something from a network printer and it just worked without bullshit issues, I was floored. There’s still the occasional hiccup, but then, I also had to deal with occasional hiccups on Windows as well, and the terminal isn’t nearly so scary when you’re used to dealing with the Group Policy Editor and PowerShell. I can count the times I’ve had to boot into Windows since on my fingers, it’s definitely less than 10. One of the things I think I love most is that I can choose to postpone updates, or restarting for them, as long as I want without the computer thinking it knows better than me. I got shit to do, I’ll get there when I get there – and having Windows go “nuh-uh, you’re restarting now” pissed me the fuck off.
Having said all that, I will freely admit and agree with you that a large portion of the Linux community is made up of elitist twats who will tell you to go read xyz instead of being in any way directly helpful. Nerds are not generally known for their social skills. However, it really doesn’t do anyone any favors to be needlessly inflammatory. If Windows works for you and you like it, great, I’m glad you’re happy with it. But there’s simply no reason to be so aggressive over Linux existing, especially now that it’s finally becoming tolerable even for former Linux-loathing users like me.
I tried Linux ~15 years ago
fucking chatgpt bullshit, and here I was actually starting to think one of you may not be entirely insane.
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Unless their hardware doesn’t support it. A lot of people are going to be tossing out perfectly good systems because they don’t have a TPM.
Excellent, I’ve been looking to upgrade my setup
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I tried Linux ~15 years ago
fucking chatgpt bullshit, and here I was actually starting to think one of you may not be entirely insane.
actually no, but if it makes you feel better you can believe whatever you want. I forgive you for being wrong.
Or are you just in disbelief that 2010 was 15 years ago? Because yeah, I feel old, too. I just can’t remember exactly when it was, 10.04 had a beta in 2009 and released early 2010 and was the Hot Cool New Thing for a time because HOLY SHIT IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE IT’S FROM THE 90S LET’S GET IN ON THIS. Might’ve been late 2009 I tried the beta, might’ve been 2010. I was in my teens at the time, it’s too fucking long ago for me to remember exact dates.
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It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them
No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.
Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.
This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards
The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake
So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.
Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?
The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control
Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you
Fuck linux
Fuck the people who promote it
That is all
Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s
Oof, I 100% understand why you have the emotional response to it that you do. A good part of the community back then were hella toxic, and even now, 20+ years later, it’s not that much better. That coupled with the enshittification of search and the death of many of those spaces for help, forums, etc. that I would argue results in a similar level of difficulty, albeit a somewhat different flavor.
But
As yesterday’s empires continue to self-cannibalize it’s highly likely that Linux is going to be the only safe and functional option in the relatively near future. While I understand personally not wanting anything to do with it, you will very likely need to make at least one Linux friend who can help you with those needs.
Undirected rage commenting is not the way.
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actually no, but if it makes you feel better you can believe whatever you want. I forgive you for being wrong.
Or are you just in disbelief that 2010 was 15 years ago? Because yeah, I feel old, too. I just can’t remember exactly when it was, 10.04 had a beta in 2009 and released early 2010 and was the Hot Cool New Thing for a time because HOLY SHIT IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE IT’S FROM THE 90S LET’S GET IN ON THIS. Might’ve been late 2009 I tried the beta, might’ve been 2010. I was in my teens at the time, it’s too fucking long ago for me to remember exact dates.
When I called out the bots on reddit, I got banned from reddit, when I called out the bots on twitter, I got shadowbanned from twitter
Guess I’m past due for lemmy.
If there is even a human handler behind this account, I want you to know: in my line of work I’ve been adjacent to AI tech since the early 90s when it was just modeling roach neurons on supercomputer clusters, I have seen a FUCKTONNE of AI output, a metric fucktonne. And you start to see patterns and word choices, strange characters and modes of speech. Add on top of that I’ve been terminally online since AOL still shipped free CDs, and a voracious reader so I’ve ALSO been exposed to a fucktonne of human output.
And just like that lady who can smell Parkinsons, I can smell AI output
And while you must have had an interesting header for the slang and tone, you can’t escape the phrasing and character usage.
