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Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux

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  • codeblooded@programming.devC codeblooded@programming.dev

    I left Debian for Arch recently and let me tell you, you immediately feel the difference with running the latest drivers for your machine. The bleeding edge drivers have upped my frames per second significantly in videos games compared to sticking with stable releases on Debian (and Ubuntu).

    With the built-in archinstall script making Arch so easy to get going, I’d only reach for anything else if I really needed the stability.

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    who
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    #169

    For anyone else reading this who plans to use Debian Stable for gaming, you really should enable Stable Backports. This gives you the option of newer drivers, kernel, etc. (you pick what you need individually) without having to give up the low-maintenance stability of the base system.

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    • S serenesadie@lemmy.myserv.one

      I do a lot more than that, so, hard pass.

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      Nik282000
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      #170

      Is it all in your browser, because pretty much everything is a web app now.

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      • A archonet@lemy.lol

        well, this is the first time I’ve ever been accused of being an AI, but you can believe whatever makes you happy. It’s no skin off my ass. Personally, I think you’re just intentionally being dense and found there wasn’t any fault you could pick with my original post to champion your original point of “linux bad”, and you instead just decided being a dick and calling me a bot was a decent out. which, for the record, fuck you kindly for suggesting I only write as well as ChatGPT, even a comparison to Claude would be less insulting. But that’s fine, I still forgive you. I just think that’s a terribly sad way to go about interacting with others.

        I hope someday you become a tranquil autist, or at least only a moderately irritated one. Because I can’t fathom yours, as it is, being a satisfying way to socialize; nevermind an effective one to change anyone else’s opinion on Linux or any other topic. Take care.

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        Angry_Autist (he/him)
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        And the handler shows up for damage control

        Just for fun maybe compare both of your comments and maybe you can tell me the differences in phrasing and character usage. There might even be a small prize for you.

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        • A Angry_Autist (he/him)

          What fucking community are we in?

          Certainly not ‘c/SERVERGaming’

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          loudwhisper@infosec.pub
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          #172

          Well, you did call it a “failed experiment”, that doesn’t sound right when it is the most used OS on the planet, on supercomputers, on servers, on phones.

          People answered with a broad response to a broad statement.

          Anyway, if this rage is medically induced and this topic seems to trigger you, why not blocking it? I think you can see how you are not going to convince anybody that your experience 20-30 years ago with Linux is applicable today, especially when people with 0 tech skills manage to daily drive a Linux dietro or use it for gaming. So why doing this to yourself?

          Researching IED, avoidance for “situations that upset you” seems to be one of the few recommended prevention mechanisms. You will get banned anyway eventually from the community, why not just blocking it in advance?

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          • N newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip

            You can bypass that requirement. The hardware is fine you just have to tell windows to ignore it.

            2 registry keys if I remember correctly.

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            JackbyDev
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            #173

            Windows also said they don’t support it and may stop it from working at any time. I have already had a problem because Windows System Image tried to restore something as UEFI when I only had BIOS so forcing my BIOS system to something that technically only supports UEFI seems like an awful idea.

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            • L loudwhisper@infosec.pub

              Not in all cases. My desktop PC came with windows professional (10), back in 2021. Upgrading to windows 11 is not included for free (not even to windows 11 “basic”), I need to pay a new license.

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              newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip
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              #174

              You still can upgrade for free and use a registry setting to take off the nag screen.

              But I really was commenting on people who think they can’t. You can too by buying windows11.

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              • A Angry_Autist (he/him)

                what an extremely neurotypical way to respond to my medically induced outrage

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                If you recognize your outrage is medically induced why click post? /gen

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                • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

                  Windows also said they don’t support it and may stop it from working at any time. I have already had a problem because Windows System Image tried to restore something as UEFI when I only had BIOS so forcing my BIOS system to something that technically only supports UEFI seems like an awful idea.

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                  newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip
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                  #176

                  Windows says lots of things. It is surprising how conflicting they are internally.

                  The thing is, there are a lot of ways to install windows 11. You have a lot of versions to choose from and more options than you think.

                  Anyways, I think it is all beating a dead horse, although you can get around windows requirements the best thing to do is not play the game.

                  Switch to Linux and be done with the bullshit.

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                  • L lightfire228@pawb.social

                    I use arch, but they’re all equivalent. A distro is more like a preconfigured linux

                    Just pick one of the popular ones and tinker

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                    natenate60@lemmy.world
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                    #177

                    Arch is the one thing that should be absolutely not recommended to beginners. Even implying that it is a suitable beginner distro in any way like you have done in this comment is only likely to drive away users when they inevitably get confused.

                    Existing Windows users mostly are not interested in even knowing of the existence of the Arch Wiki. They will just give up and conclude Linux is shit.

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                    • S sorryquick@lemmy.ca

                      400MB??? What do you have running? I never use more than 100 unless I open a game or something.

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                      nuko147@lemmy.world
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                      #178

                      Well, screen is running at 4k, so i think its normal.

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                      • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                        What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                        natenate60@lemmy.world
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                        #179

                        Like the others have said, all major distros are fine. Ubuntu is or used to be Valve’s “favourite distro” and the package that you can get from Valve’s website is for Ubuntu. That being said, software on Linux should be installed using the package manager (the Software Centre) and not downloaded from the Web.

                        You may wish to upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS later. This is fairly easy (you can use the Software Updater application) but the newer versions have better drivers and newer GNOME versions which may bring better performance.

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                        • N newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip

                          You still can upgrade for free and use a registry setting to take off the nag screen.

                          But I really was commenting on people who think they can’t. You can too by buying windows11.

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                          loudwhisper@infosec.pub
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                          Well, windows didn’t allow me to do that, so I might have to do a manual process maybe.

                          Anyway, I am not interested in upgrading, I am just saying that I can’t upgrade (click button, couple of steps), without buying a new copy. We can argue about the semantics of what “upgrading” means, but effectively there are going to be plenty of people in my situations, which is why I brought it up.

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                          • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

                            All we can do is guide them. Personally, I guide them to treasure I cannot have, since I’m damn near obligated to run and deeply understand Microsoft Windows because I work for IT support.

                            All of my work tools are Windows centric.

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                            zedotelhado@lemmy.world
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                            I do use windows for work as well, but if people want adoption, it starts at home. I do see a need for Linux distros in general will have to make even a bigger shift for the user needs instead of whatever agenda people like to imply (I think open source is a good goal, but if I introduce Linux to someone, I will not for certain preach endlessly about this).

                            We need more adoption, but I also see some camps will decide to further distance themselves from these groups of users.

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                            • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                              What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                              Alaknár
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                              All major distros are fine, but there are some niche that specialise in making it easy for people to play games. I use Garuda Linux for that reason. It has it’s own app that helps handling OS maintenance, you can install things like Heroic Launcher, Steam, and Proton with a couple of clicks, you have a nice app that checks for updates, etc., etc.

                              It’s still Linux, which means random shit breaks for no reason, but for gaming and not having to worry about keeping the OS alive it’s great.

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                              • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                Thanks, these are the kind of nuggets I’m looking for.

                                Not that I blame the vulkan translation layer at all. It’s incredible it even works on Nvidia.

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                                Mwa
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                                Ig the fix came out?

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                                  zer0bitz@lemmy.world
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                                  I’ve been using Arch for a little over a year, and it’s been fun. I’ve learned so much more about computers and Linux itself. I highly recommend trying out Linux and you can do it here: https://distrosea.com/ - It’s a website where you can try out different Linux distros in your web browser.

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                                  • O omega_jimes@lemmy.ca

                                    If all you do is game, outside of a few key games (Destiny 2, uhh,couple others) the experience on Linux is better for many folks.

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                                    arc99@lemmy.world
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                                    The success of Steam Deck has helped a lot. Prior to that Linux ports tended to be very perfunctory and they weren’t tested or supported very well. I guess that now there are actual Linux gamers (via Steam Deck), that support has improved. That said, I think outside of Steam Deck and SteamOS, your experience of gaming is going to be extremely dependent on your GPU, driver support and a number of other factors. Things are far more likely to work well on Windows than they would for Linux.

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                                    • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                                      Microsoft is already responding to the potential shift. The upcoming ROG Xbox Ally X handheld from Microsoft and ASUS will reportedly ship with a gaming-optimized version of Windows 11 with a dedicated Xbox UI and interface that aims to streamline the experience while boosting in-game performance and overall handheld efficiency.

                                      Given how much Microsoft wants to shove AI tools every where in Windows, I don’t think this optimisation will make much of a difference.

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                                      wooki@lemmy.world
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                                      #186

                                      Given how much Microsoft wants to enshitify its services. Windows 11 is proven to be no exception. They have no reason to stop at the Xbox brand. Even Microsoft games like their new flight sim has not escaped enshitification race to the bottom.

                                      Fixed

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                                      • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                                        … what rate are you talking about?

                                        I am going to assume the other person’s numbers were right but it honestly doesn’t matter

                                        422k people per month? That is 0.3% per month. 2.89 + (0.3*34) = 13.09. 13% after almost 3 years. Which… that honestly still seems high but I could almost see it if SteamOS gets enough coverage by the various influencers and runs on every handheld form factor gaming PC that isn’t MS or Sony branded. And if the next attempt at Steam Machines actually gains traction and they take over a chunk of the console space ahead of the PS6.

                                        Or are you talking about compound interest? Which… I think even Activision and EA would call you crazy for assuming. Also I am not sure if the math actually holds for that either but I can never remember the simple math to represent that.


                                        Also it is completely unrelated but I’ll just add: I personally don’t consider SteamOS gaining a significant market share to be “linux” any more than I do Android or consider Mac to be “BSD”. Yes, they have common ancestry (and varying levels of shared kernel and libraries) but it rapidly starts creating walled garden issues as developers prioritize one distro over the other to an obscene degree. And… I think we can all agree after the past few weeks that GabeN can indeed do wrong when it is in his/Valve’s financial interest to do so.

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                                        alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                                        It’s Linux because for devs it’s a Linux platform.

                                        And yeah 11% growth month to month compounds quickly. It won’t hold forever but all things like that are sigmoidal Wich does start as an exponential growth.

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                                          jokedeity@sh.itjust.works
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                                          #188

                                          Lemmy Linux copium is one of the strongest in the world.

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