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  • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

    Windows also said they don’t support it and may stop it from working at any time. I have already had a problem because Windows System Image tried to restore something as UEFI when I only had BIOS so forcing my BIOS system to something that technically only supports UEFI seems like an awful idea.

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    newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip
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    Windows says lots of things. It is surprising how conflicting they are internally.

    The thing is, there are a lot of ways to install windows 11. You have a lot of versions to choose from and more options than you think.

    Anyways, I think it is all beating a dead horse, although you can get around windows requirements the best thing to do is not play the game.

    Switch to Linux and be done with the bullshit.

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    • L lightfire228@pawb.social

      I use arch, but they’re all equivalent. A distro is more like a preconfigured linux

      Just pick one of the popular ones and tinker

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      natenate60@lemmy.world
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      Arch is the one thing that should be absolutely not recommended to beginners. Even implying that it is a suitable beginner distro in any way like you have done in this comment is only likely to drive away users when they inevitably get confused.

      Existing Windows users mostly are not interested in even knowing of the existence of the Arch Wiki. They will just give up and conclude Linux is shit.

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      • S sorryquick@lemmy.ca

        400MB??? What do you have running? I never use more than 100 unless I open a game or something.

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        nuko147@lemmy.world
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        #178

        Well, screen is running at 4k, so i think its normal.

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        • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

          What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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          natenate60@lemmy.world
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          #179

          Like the others have said, all major distros are fine. Ubuntu is or used to be Valve’s “favourite distro” and the package that you can get from Valve’s website is for Ubuntu. That being said, software on Linux should be installed using the package manager (the Software Centre) and not downloaded from the Web.

          You may wish to upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS later. This is fairly easy (you can use the Software Updater application) but the newer versions have better drivers and newer GNOME versions which may bring better performance.

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          • N newnewaugusteast@lemmy.zip

            You still can upgrade for free and use a registry setting to take off the nag screen.

            But I really was commenting on people who think they can’t. You can too by buying windows11.

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            loudwhisper@infosec.pub
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            #180

            Well, windows didn’t allow me to do that, so I might have to do a manual process maybe.

            Anyway, I am not interested in upgrading, I am just saying that I can’t upgrade (click button, couple of steps), without buying a new copy. We can argue about the semantics of what “upgrading” means, but effectively there are going to be plenty of people in my situations, which is why I brought it up.

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            • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

              All we can do is guide them. Personally, I guide them to treasure I cannot have, since I’m damn near obligated to run and deeply understand Microsoft Windows because I work for IT support.

              All of my work tools are Windows centric.

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              zedotelhado@lemmy.world
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              #181

              I do use windows for work as well, but if people want adoption, it starts at home. I do see a need for Linux distros in general will have to make even a bigger shift for the user needs instead of whatever agenda people like to imply (I think open source is a good goal, but if I introduce Linux to someone, I will not for certain preach endlessly about this).

              We need more adoption, but I also see some camps will decide to further distance themselves from these groups of users.

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              • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                Alaknár
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                All major distros are fine, but there are some niche that specialise in making it easy for people to play games. I use Garuda Linux for that reason. It has it’s own app that helps handling OS maintenance, you can install things like Heroic Launcher, Steam, and Proton with a couple of clicks, you have a nice app that checks for updates, etc., etc.

                It’s still Linux, which means random shit breaks for no reason, but for gaming and not having to worry about keeping the OS alive it’s great.

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                • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                  Thanks, these are the kind of nuggets I’m looking for.

                  Not that I blame the vulkan translation layer at all. It’s incredible it even works on Nvidia.

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                  Mwa
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                  #183

                  Ig the fix came out?

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                    zer0bitz@lemmy.world
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                    #184

                    I’ve been using Arch for a little over a year, and it’s been fun. I’ve learned so much more about computers and Linux itself. I highly recommend trying out Linux and you can do it here: https://distrosea.com/ - It’s a website where you can try out different Linux distros in your web browser.

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                    • O omega_jimes@lemmy.ca

                      If all you do is game, outside of a few key games (Destiny 2, uhh,couple others) the experience on Linux is better for many folks.

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                      arc99@lemmy.world
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                      #185

                      The success of Steam Deck has helped a lot. Prior to that Linux ports tended to be very perfunctory and they weren’t tested or supported very well. I guess that now there are actual Linux gamers (via Steam Deck), that support has improved. That said, I think outside of Steam Deck and SteamOS, your experience of gaming is going to be extremely dependent on your GPU, driver support and a number of other factors. Things are far more likely to work well on Windows than they would for Linux.

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                      • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                        Microsoft is already responding to the potential shift. The upcoming ROG Xbox Ally X handheld from Microsoft and ASUS will reportedly ship with a gaming-optimized version of Windows 11 with a dedicated Xbox UI and interface that aims to streamline the experience while boosting in-game performance and overall handheld efficiency.

                        Given how much Microsoft wants to shove AI tools every where in Windows, I don’t think this optimisation will make much of a difference.

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                        wooki@lemmy.world
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                        #186

                        Given how much Microsoft wants to enshitify its services. Windows 11 is proven to be no exception. They have no reason to stop at the Xbox brand. Even Microsoft games like their new flight sim has not escaped enshitification race to the bottom.

                        Fixed

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                        • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                          … what rate are you talking about?

                          I am going to assume the other person’s numbers were right but it honestly doesn’t matter

                          422k people per month? That is 0.3% per month. 2.89 + (0.3*34) = 13.09. 13% after almost 3 years. Which… that honestly still seems high but I could almost see it if SteamOS gets enough coverage by the various influencers and runs on every handheld form factor gaming PC that isn’t MS or Sony branded. And if the next attempt at Steam Machines actually gains traction and they take over a chunk of the console space ahead of the PS6.

                          Or are you talking about compound interest? Which… I think even Activision and EA would call you crazy for assuming. Also I am not sure if the math actually holds for that either but I can never remember the simple math to represent that.


                          Also it is completely unrelated but I’ll just add: I personally don’t consider SteamOS gaining a significant market share to be “linux” any more than I do Android or consider Mac to be “BSD”. Yes, they have common ancestry (and varying levels of shared kernel and libraries) but it rapidly starts creating walled garden issues as developers prioritize one distro over the other to an obscene degree. And… I think we can all agree after the past few weeks that GabeN can indeed do wrong when it is in his/Valve’s financial interest to do so.

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                          alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                          It’s Linux because for devs it’s a Linux platform.

                          And yeah 11% growth month to month compounds quickly. It won’t hold forever but all things like that are sigmoidal Wich does start as an exponential growth.

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                            jokedeity@sh.itjust.works
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                            #188

                            Lemmy Linux copium is one of the strongest in the world.

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                            • A astralpath@lemmy.ca

                              I highly recommend Nobara.

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                              dil
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                              idk why you’re downvoted hella ppl use proton ge and hes the one making nobara

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                              • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                                Have you tried a different distro base such as Fedora or SUSE compared to Debians based? I have a laptop that will not install Debian based distros due to hardware error or bug, or if it does install they fail to boot with hardware errors messages. Fedora and SUSE work though, and ironically nixOS.

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                                dil
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                                #190

                                I tried mint and endeavour (also arch tho so I guess its the same) Mint had the same freezing issue. Thought it was my hardware because I had reinstalled my os when problems began, eventually tried the lts kernel and it became stable like it was originally. They recentlly updated it tho, so I have to prevent updates (idk how so I just rollback from the cache after every pacman -Syu)

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                                • H Horsey

                                  I had that issue last time I switched to Linux. Thankfully eventually it went away. It should help to distro hop to a more bleeding edge distro. Fedora specifically gets system updates every night through Discover.

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                                  dil
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                                  #191

                                  I’m on cachyos, thought arch was the most bleeding edge

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                                  • O omega_jimes@lemmy.ca

                                    If all you do is game, outside of a few key games (Destiny 2, uhh,couple others) the experience on Linux is better for many folks.

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                                    lost_faith
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                                    For flat games this is true, there is still work to be done for the VR side of things, even that has advanced by leaps and bounds in just the last 2 or 3 years

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                                      bluewing@lemmy.world
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                                      It’s not so much about users switching, it’s more about the ones that will stick with it. And that we can’t know for a few years yet.

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                                      • AlaknárA Alaknár

                                        All major distros are fine, but there are some niche that specialise in making it easy for people to play games. I use Garuda Linux for that reason. It has it’s own app that helps handling OS maintenance, you can install things like Heroic Launcher, Steam, and Proton with a couple of clicks, you have a nice app that checks for updates, etc., etc.

                                        It’s still Linux, which means random shit breaks for no reason, but for gaming and not having to worry about keeping the OS alive it’s great.

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                                        ganryuu@lemmy.ca
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                                        Linux in no way means that “random shit breaks for no reason”, if anything that’s Windows. Some distributions may be easier to break if you don’t know what you are doing but that is not an OS problem.

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                                        • J jokedeity@sh.itjust.works

                                          Lemmy Linux copium is one of the strongest in the world.

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                                          fossilesque@mander.xyz
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                                          How else are we going to achieve nuclear fission?

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