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  • nuko147@lemmy.worldN nuko147@lemmy.world

    How is your idle VRAM (video RAM) holding? For some reason i have 1GB usage in Mint with Cinnamon without anything running, while on windows i have 400MB (although i have optimised them a lot).

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    pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Why do you care?

    If I had to guess, VRAM is probably holding stuff as a cache.

    VRAM doesn’t use a lot of power and as long as you aren’t seeing out of memory issues, it doesn’t really matter.

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    • B bronzebeard@lemmy.zip

      People buying Steam decks are likely the majority of those numbers. They probably ALSO have a Windows machine

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      wrote on last edited by bombomom@lemmy.world
      #212

      People buying Steam decks are likely the majority of those numbers.

      The Steam Deck shows up as Arch Linux in the steam numbers; Arch is only 10.7% of the Linux user-base on Steam. And this is on top of the fact desktop Arch Linux is a thing as well sharing space in that line-item.

      The Steam Deck (and Microsoft tomfoolery) certainly was the catalyst for the current wave of adoption, but it is barely a notable percentage of Linux installs on Steam.

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      • P pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Why do you care?

        If I had to guess, VRAM is probably holding stuff as a cache.

        VRAM doesn’t use a lot of power and as long as you aren’t seeing out of memory issues, it doesn’t really matter.

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        nuko147@lemmy.world
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        #213

        I’m gaming with an NVIDIA GPU, so my VRAM is kind of limited. I’m at my limits in games because the company cheaped out on VRAM in their GPUs after the 10 series.

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        • R roopappy@lemmy.world

          I’ve been running Bazzite OS on my living room big screen gaming PC since May. It’s a really slick fedora-based distro that installs out of the box with Steam, proton, and graphics drivers ready-to-launch for gaming. It was really easy to use, and my games worked perfectly.

          My high school age son got a new AMD proc/mb for his birthday, and I was surprised when he said he wanted to try dual booting Bazzite and Windows when we set it up. 2 weeks later, and he decided to kill the Windows boot and just use Bazzite full time. He has no linux experience and just figures it out.

          Windows 11 is shit and Linux alternatives are prettier, easier to use, don’t shove AI down your throat, and don’t steal your data for profit. The time has come.

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          andrewzabar@lemmy.world
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          Good on your son! Glad he sees the light. Windows is shittier and shittier all the time. I migrated away from it years ago. It’s absolute poison now.

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          • L lost_faith

            For flat games this is true, there is still work to be done for the VR side of things, even that has advanced by leaps and bounds in just the last 2 or 3 years

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            blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com
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            Are there really people playing VR stuff regularly? I only know 2 people in my circles that bought equipment for it, and both of them got sick of it after a couple weeks.

            I don’t know, what I’ve tried was fun for about 10 minutes, but that’s about all I could take before the headache starts.

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              anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
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              #216

              I’ve been running Linux on my desktop for more than 30 years, so I’ve switched for a while. And while I’d certainly like to see it become more commonplace, I’m not sure a few decimal points are really going to change anything. It’s nice that it’s making progress, of course, but all in all, it’s rather insignificant.
              While it’s under 10, or more likely 15%, nobody will care about it.

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              • B blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com

                Are there really people playing VR stuff regularly? I only know 2 people in my circles that bought equipment for it, and both of them got sick of it after a couple weeks.

                I don’t know, what I’ve tried was fun for about 10 minutes, but that’s about all I could take before the headache starts.

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                lost_faith
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                #217

                I have put over 9k hours of play time since i got my vive in 2018. usually play for about 2h at a stretch 7 times a week. VR has destroyed my ability to play flat games, I just can’t put more than a half hour into them these days. Usually load a game, look at the main menu, may start the game then in a few mins, turn it off.

                I play mil sim, zombie shooter, vr mods of flat games I have enjoyed in the past like raft and The Forest.

                When I first started there was a time i couldn’t play long but after a month 2h was no issue except for tiredness.

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                • R roopappy@lemmy.world

                  I’ve been running Bazzite OS on my living room big screen gaming PC since May. It’s a really slick fedora-based distro that installs out of the box with Steam, proton, and graphics drivers ready-to-launch for gaming. It was really easy to use, and my games worked perfectly.

                  My high school age son got a new AMD proc/mb for his birthday, and I was surprised when he said he wanted to try dual booting Bazzite and Windows when we set it up. 2 weeks later, and he decided to kill the Windows boot and just use Bazzite full time. He has no linux experience and just figures it out.

                  Windows 11 is shit and Linux alternatives are prettier, easier to use, don’t shove AI down your throat, and don’t steal your data for profit. The time has come.

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                  Bakkoda
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                  I’m too old to tinker anymore. Bazzite has been a blessing. Rock solid.

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                  • ultrafastsloth@lemmy.worldU ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world

                    I did the same with AMD+ NVidia gpu combo but it is not without problems. Do you play through Steam/proton db or are you using something else like Lutris?

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                    sl00k@programming.dev
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                    I use steam, I do check protonDB but I’ve never had to tinker with much.

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                    • R roopappy@lemmy.world

                      I’ve been running Bazzite OS on my living room big screen gaming PC since May. It’s a really slick fedora-based distro that installs out of the box with Steam, proton, and graphics drivers ready-to-launch for gaming. It was really easy to use, and my games worked perfectly.

                      My high school age son got a new AMD proc/mb for his birthday, and I was surprised when he said he wanted to try dual booting Bazzite and Windows when we set it up. 2 weeks later, and he decided to kill the Windows boot and just use Bazzite full time. He has no linux experience and just figures it out.

                      Windows 11 is shit and Linux alternatives are prettier, easier to use, don’t shove AI down your throat, and don’t steal your data for profit. The time has come.

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                      joeffect@lemmy.world
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                      #220

                      Linux really is in a good place I’ve been on it for some months now. It feels like win 7, it doesn’t get in your way, it does what you want it to do when you want it to. And if you fuck something up its because you fucked it up… go fix it…

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                      • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA anunusualrelic@lemmy.world

                        I’ve been running Linux on my desktop for more than 30 years, so I’ve switched for a while. And while I’d certainly like to see it become more commonplace, I’m not sure a few decimal points are really going to change anything. It’s nice that it’s making progress, of course, but all in all, it’s rather insignificant.
                        While it’s under 10, or more likely 15%, nobody will care about it.

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                        KubeRoot
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                        Developers already care about it. Not all of them, not all the way, but many are aiming for steam deck compatibility via proton. It’s not perfect, and some devs are vehemently holding out, but it’s progress!

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                        • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA anunusualrelic@lemmy.world

                          I’ve been running Linux on my desktop for more than 30 years, so I’ve switched for a while. And while I’d certainly like to see it become more commonplace, I’m not sure a few decimal points are really going to change anything. It’s nice that it’s making progress, of course, but all in all, it’s rather insignificant.
                          While it’s under 10, or more likely 15%, nobody will care about it.

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                          • B bronzebeard@lemmy.zip

                            Sure, but even using that absurd growth rate continuously it would still take an ADDITIONAL 18 months from what you originally said to hit 50%

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                            alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                            #223

                            log_1.11 (50/2.89) = 27.32

                            log_1.11 (100/2.89) = 33.96

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                              kadup
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                              People care a lot about macOS because you can charge users $15 for a GUI wrapper around a terminal command and they will pay and even recommend your app. I’m not even joking, there are a thousand examples of apps like this. If your app actually does anything, you can charge $30 and they will pay.

                              Now on Linux you could release the cure for cancer for $0.99 and you’d get screamed at. And I say that as a Linux user. Which means you need significantly higher numbers than macOS to achieve the same revenue, which also means the companies developing the commercial software that holds back adoption of Linux will take a long while before starting to care.

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                              • J joeffect@lemmy.world

                                Linux really is in a good place I’ve been on it for some months now. It feels like win 7, it doesn’t get in your way, it does what you want it to do when you want it to. And if you fuck something up its because you fucked it up… go fix it…

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                                Bilb!
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                                “Fixing it” has been a lot easier to do lately as well. Most distros set up a rollback feature of some kind these days.

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                                • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                                  They don’t. The survey pops up on one device only. Statistically speaking though, it’s more likely to show up on the OS you spend most of your time using, so it doesn’t make that much of a difference.

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                                  frozen
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                                  This is usually true, in my experience, but I experienced an anomaly a couple of weeks ago when the survey popped up on my desktop twice (Arch and Win11) and my laptop twice (CachyOS and Win11) in the same day. I was very surprised.

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                                  • B blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com

                                    Are there really people playing VR stuff regularly? I only know 2 people in my circles that bought equipment for it, and both of them got sick of it after a couple weeks.

                                    I don’t know, what I’ve tried was fun for about 10 minutes, but that’s about all I could take before the headache starts.

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                                    retrograde@lemmy.world
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                                    Your brain acclimates to being in VR the more you play so the headaches should disappear after a few sessions.

                                    I’d say the issue these days is there aren’t enough fresh VR titles coming out.

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                                    • Z zurohki@aussie.zone

                                      Microsoft is moving away from allowing anything to run with those low level permissions after that CrowdStrike incident where rogue security software bricked millions of Windows PCs, so that might take out kernel anticheat as collateral damage.

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                                      trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                                      While I’d love to see this, they also walked that back following lobbying by Antivirus vendors. So shit will continue to roll

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                                      • frozenF frozen

                                        This is usually true, in my experience, but I experienced an anomaly a couple of weeks ago when the survey popped up on my desktop twice (Arch and Win11) and my laptop twice (CachyOS and Win11) in the same day. I was very surprised.

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                                        voodooattack@lemmy.world
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                                        Huh. That’s odd. I guess it balances out though.

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                                          People care a lot about macOS because you can charge users $15 for a GUI wrapper around a terminal command and they will pay and even recommend your app. I’m not even joking, there are a thousand examples of apps like this. If your app actually does anything, you can charge $30 and they will pay.

                                          Now on Linux you could release the cure for cancer for $0.99 and you’d get screamed at. And I say that as a Linux user. Which means you need significantly higher numbers than macOS to achieve the same revenue, which also means the companies developing the commercial software that holds back adoption of Linux will take a long while before starting to care.

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                                          absentbird@lemmy.world
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                                          In all seriousness fuck charging for cures, especially for cancer. Life is about more than getting paid. I just lost someone yesterday to cancer so I’m sure this is an outsized response, but seriously, cancer fucking sucks.

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