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  • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA anunusualrelic@lemmy.world

    I’ve been running Linux on my desktop for more than 30 years, so I’ve switched for a while. And while I’d certainly like to see it become more commonplace, I’m not sure a few decimal points are really going to change anything. It’s nice that it’s making progress, of course, but all in all, it’s rather insignificant.
    While it’s under 10, or more likely 15%, nobody will care about it.

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    KubeRoot
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    Developers already care about it. Not all of them, not all the way, but many are aiming for steam deck compatibility via proton. It’s not perfect, and some devs are vehemently holding out, but it’s progress!

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    • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA anunusualrelic@lemmy.world

      I’ve been running Linux on my desktop for more than 30 years, so I’ve switched for a while. And while I’d certainly like to see it become more commonplace, I’m not sure a few decimal points are really going to change anything. It’s nice that it’s making progress, of course, but all in all, it’s rather insignificant.
      While it’s under 10, or more likely 15%, nobody will care about it.

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      • B bronzebeard@lemmy.zip

        Sure, but even using that absurd growth rate continuously it would still take an ADDITIONAL 18 months from what you originally said to hit 50%

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        alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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        log_1.11 (50/2.89) = 27.32

        log_1.11 (100/2.89) = 33.96

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          kadup
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          People care a lot about macOS because you can charge users $15 for a GUI wrapper around a terminal command and they will pay and even recommend your app. I’m not even joking, there are a thousand examples of apps like this. If your app actually does anything, you can charge $30 and they will pay.

          Now on Linux you could release the cure for cancer for $0.99 and you’d get screamed at. And I say that as a Linux user. Which means you need significantly higher numbers than macOS to achieve the same revenue, which also means the companies developing the commercial software that holds back adoption of Linux will take a long while before starting to care.

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          • J joeffect@lemmy.world

            Linux really is in a good place I’ve been on it for some months now. It feels like win 7, it doesn’t get in your way, it does what you want it to do when you want it to. And if you fuck something up its because you fucked it up… go fix it…

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            Bilb!
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            “Fixing it” has been a lot easier to do lately as well. Most distros set up a rollback feature of some kind these days.

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            • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

              They don’t. The survey pops up on one device only. Statistically speaking though, it’s more likely to show up on the OS you spend most of your time using, so it doesn’t make that much of a difference.

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              frozen
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              This is usually true, in my experience, but I experienced an anomaly a couple of weeks ago when the survey popped up on my desktop twice (Arch and Win11) and my laptop twice (CachyOS and Win11) in the same day. I was very surprised.

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              • B blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com

                Are there really people playing VR stuff regularly? I only know 2 people in my circles that bought equipment for it, and both of them got sick of it after a couple weeks.

                I don’t know, what I’ve tried was fun for about 10 minutes, but that’s about all I could take before the headache starts.

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                retrograde@lemmy.world
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                Your brain acclimates to being in VR the more you play so the headaches should disappear after a few sessions.

                I’d say the issue these days is there aren’t enough fresh VR titles coming out.

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                • Z zurohki@aussie.zone

                  Microsoft is moving away from allowing anything to run with those low level permissions after that CrowdStrike incident where rogue security software bricked millions of Windows PCs, so that might take out kernel anticheat as collateral damage.

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                  trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                  While I’d love to see this, they also walked that back following lobbying by Antivirus vendors. So shit will continue to roll

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                  • frozenF frozen

                    This is usually true, in my experience, but I experienced an anomaly a couple of weeks ago when the survey popped up on my desktop twice (Arch and Win11) and my laptop twice (CachyOS and Win11) in the same day. I was very surprised.

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                    voodooattack@lemmy.world
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                    Huh. That’s odd. I guess it balances out though.

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                    • K kadup

                      People care a lot about macOS because you can charge users $15 for a GUI wrapper around a terminal command and they will pay and even recommend your app. I’m not even joking, there are a thousand examples of apps like this. If your app actually does anything, you can charge $30 and they will pay.

                      Now on Linux you could release the cure for cancer for $0.99 and you’d get screamed at. And I say that as a Linux user. Which means you need significantly higher numbers than macOS to achieve the same revenue, which also means the companies developing the commercial software that holds back adoption of Linux will take a long while before starting to care.

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                      absentbird@lemmy.world
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                      In all seriousness fuck charging for cures, especially for cancer. Life is about more than getting paid. I just lost someone yesterday to cancer so I’m sure this is an outsized response, but seriously, cancer fucking sucks.

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                      • R roopappy@lemmy.world

                        I’ve been running Bazzite OS on my living room big screen gaming PC since May. It’s a really slick fedora-based distro that installs out of the box with Steam, proton, and graphics drivers ready-to-launch for gaming. It was really easy to use, and my games worked perfectly.

                        My high school age son got a new AMD proc/mb for his birthday, and I was surprised when he said he wanted to try dual booting Bazzite and Windows when we set it up. 2 weeks later, and he decided to kill the Windows boot and just use Bazzite full time. He has no linux experience and just figures it out.

                        Windows 11 is shit and Linux alternatives are prettier, easier to use, don’t shove AI down your throat, and don’t steal your data for profit. The time has come.

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                        absentbird@lemmy.world
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                        Your son is a badass.

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                        • P piemanding@sh.itjust.works

                          We’ve achieved fusion too. We just can’t extract more energy than we put into it yet.

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                          absentbird@lemmy.world
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                          Technically they can extract more now, it’s just a really really small amount.

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                            Fat Tony
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                            Yeah, by a whole permille I bet.

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                            • ultrafastsloth@lemmy.worldU ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world

                              I did the same with AMD+ NVidia gpu combo but it is not without problems. Do you play through Steam/proton db or are you using something else like Lutris?

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                              trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                              Historically I’ve used lutris but more recently I’ve been observing more broken scripts than not. But Lutris is extremely handy for mapping to a pile of game data that I might grab from Itch for example. I also havent been gaming as much lately so maybe I’m just hitting some weird games and that’s all.

                              I’ve heard good things about Heroic Launcher which apparently is actually sponsored by GOG, but I’ve yet to try it on my Linux machine

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                              • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                                People buying Steam decks are likely the majority of those numbers.

                                The Steam Deck shows up as Arch Linux in the steam numbers; Arch is only 10.7% of the Linux user-base on Steam. And this is on top of the fact desktop Arch Linux is a thing as well sharing space in that line-item.

                                The Steam Deck (and Microsoft tomfoolery) certainly was the catalyst for the current wave of adoption, but it is barely a notable percentage of Linux installs on Steam.

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                                trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                                but it is barely a notable percentage of Linux installs on Steam.

                                0.3% of 130 million is still a fuckton of people. If even PewDiePie is going to Linux, that means desktop Linux has hit a point it certainly hasn’t ever before

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                                  Steve Dice
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                                  Just tried gaming on Linux because I forgot my Ally and was stuck on my laptop. Sorry, guys, it still sucks. It’s getting better, though. Perhaps in another 10 years.

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                                  • Bilb!B Bilb!

                                    “Fixing it” has been a lot easier to do lately as well. Most distros set up a rollback feature of some kind these days.

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                                    joeffect@lemmy.world
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                                    I don’t remember what i did… but i completely fucked my system up… linux wouldnt start at all…

                                    I tried looking online for help and i basically needed a flash drive with linux to “fix” the issue…

                                    I didn’t have that, i lost it or whatever…

                                    I took a shot with asking chat gpt and for all its hate… it was somehow able to explain some weird boot loader thing I’ve never heard of and i punched in some commands into the command line, and everything was fixed…

                                    Im not sure the point of the story, but don’t go changing system level shit when your trying to fix your graphics card from crashing while playing no mans sky… i did fix the issue though changing the desktop from cinnamon to xde or something…

                                    But its like a memory bug or something that hopefully gets fixed for amd at some point

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                                    • A absentbird@lemmy.world

                                      In all seriousness fuck charging for cures, especially for cancer. Life is about more than getting paid. I just lost someone yesterday to cancer so I’m sure this is an outsized response, but seriously, cancer fucking sucks.

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                                      • G ganryuu@lemmy.ca

                                        Yeah, “linuxism”, that must be it… That or it’s possible that the OS and distributions have evolved while you were not looking.

                                        Linux dominates on servers because of that yes. Also because of its licensing costs, being open source, stable, secure (please don’t try to tell me Windows is more secure, please please please), better performance and lesser response time. Because a Debian stable will never break with simple security updates. I am also quite curious about getting a source for that claim that Windows Server is coming back.

                                        Finally, do tell me where I mentioned MacOS. Unless you think that MacOS and Linux are the same? That wouldn’t surprise me considering your apparent knowledge (or lack of) about Linux. FYI MacOS is based on a BSD kernel.

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                                        trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                                        The big benefit of linux servers for most businesses is that they tend to be configure-once systems, where you set it up, verify it works then no further maintenance is needed beyond applying updates in line with your update schedule and downtime windows. Sure there will every once in a while be something that changes but far less than you see with Windows Server where some registry values stopped working with a recent windows update without warning so now you have to track down new registry values to recreate the behavior. That and tracking down why Windows decided to ignore all of your settings and reboot this time (and how to stop it again)

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                                          JaggedRobotPubes
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                                          Microsoft Recall and Steam Deck and Proton are why.

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