Skip to content
0
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Sketchy)
  • No Skin
Collapse

Wandering Adventure Party

  1. Home
  2. PC Gaming
  3. Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux

Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved PC Gaming
pcgaming
294 Posts 145 Posters 12 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

    11% of 2% is nice but not “fucking crazy”

    A This user is from outside of this forum
    A This user is from outside of this forum
    alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
    wrote on last edited by alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
    #35

    At that rate we reach 100% Linux users in 34 months. (50% in 27)

    I’d call that quite significant.

    N 1 Reply Last reply
    7
    • A alsimoneau@lemmy.ca

      At that rate we reach 100% Linux users in 34 months. (50% in 27)

      I’d call that quite significant.

      N This user is from outside of this forum
      N This user is from outside of this forum
      nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip
      wrote on last edited by nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip
      #36

      … what rate are you talking about?

      I am going to assume the other person’s numbers were right but it honestly doesn’t matter

      422k people per month? That is 0.3% per month. 2.89 + (0.3*34) = 13.09. 13% after almost 3 years. Which… that honestly still seems high but I could almost see it if SteamOS gets enough coverage by the various influencers and runs on every handheld form factor gaming PC that isn’t MS or Sony branded. And if the next attempt at Steam Machines actually gains traction and they take over a chunk of the console space ahead of the PS6.

      Or are you talking about compound interest? Which… I think even Activision and EA would call you crazy for assuming. Also I am not sure if the math actually holds for that either but I can never remember the simple math to represent that.


      Also it is completely unrelated but I’ll just add: I personally don’t consider SteamOS gaining a significant market share to be “linux” any more than I do Android or consider Mac to be “BSD”. Yes, they have common ancestry (and varying levels of shared kernel and libraries) but it rapidly starts creating walled garden issues as developers prioritize one distro over the other to an obscene degree. And… I think we can all agree after the past few weeks that GabeN can indeed do wrong when it is in his/Valve’s financial interest to do so.

      A 1 Reply Last reply
      2
      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
        This post did not contain any content.
        B This user is from outside of this forum
        B This user is from outside of this forum
        brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        wrote on last edited by brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        #37

        Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

        By much? With HDR?

        Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

        M G F woelkchen@lemmy.worldW L 7 Replies Last reply
        8
        • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

          Steam has over 132 million monthly active users

          That month on month Linux expansion is ~422,000 computers. That is a shitload of people switching in just a single month.

          OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching. As Linux attracts these people away from Microsoft, MS is not going to get them back. And importantly, the adoption rate is high enough that many 3rd party companies are taking notice and releasing for both.

          H This user is from outside of this forum
          H This user is from outside of this forum
          hddsx@lemmy.ca
          wrote on last edited by
          #38

          What do you mean OSes are sticky as hell? I’m currently on Arch, but only because of the AUR. I’m thinking of switching to gentoo because people keep putting malicious packages on the AUR so I might as well do gentoo

          BombOmOmB 1 Reply Last reply
          1
          • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
            This post did not contain any content.
            D This user is from outside of this forum
            D This user is from outside of this forum
            dil
            wrote on last edited by
            #39

            Beware some issues if your hardware isnt popular, I have freezing on all kernels past 6.136-2, so I’m stuck there. (test them all every update, no matter what I get hella random freezing requiring a power button restart) It is very stable and fast tho, kinda scary thinking the bug never gets fixed tho, still new to Linux and assuming it’s bad to not update the kernel longgerm.

            H B 2 Replies Last reply
            5
            • H hddsx@lemmy.ca

              What do you mean OSes are sticky as hell? I’m currently on Arch, but only because of the AUR. I’m thinking of switching to gentoo because people keep putting malicious packages on the AUR so I might as well do gentoo

              BombOmOmB This user is from outside of this forum
              BombOmOmB This user is from outside of this forum
              BombOmOm
              wrote on last edited by bombomom@lemmy.world
              #40

              What do you mean OSes are sticky as hell?

              What are your feelings on switching to a different OS, such as MacOS?

              I’m currently on Arch … I’m thinking of switching to gentoo

              These are both the same OS: Linux. And one of the nice things is Linux lets you switch around so much at-will as you are thinking of doing.

              H 1 Reply Last reply
              10
              • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                What do you mean OSes are sticky as hell?

                What are your feelings on switching to a different OS, such as MacOS?

                I’m currently on Arch … I’m thinking of switching to gentoo

                These are both the same OS: Linux. And one of the nice things is Linux lets you switch around so much at-will as you are thinking of doing.

                H This user is from outside of this forum
                H This user is from outside of this forum
                hddsx@lemmy.ca
                wrote on last edited by
                #41

                I can’t see OS X becoming a daily driver for me, but I don’t mind using it on occasion (it has bash!). Just have to turn off gestures

                1 Reply Last reply
                1
                • T Tanis Nikana

                  I’m in those stats when I switched to Mint!

                  nuko147@lemmy.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nuko147@lemmy.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nuko147@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #42

                  How is your idle VRAM (video RAM) holding? For some reason i have 1GB usage in Mint with Cinnamon without anything running, while on windows i have 400MB (although i have optimised them a lot).

                  T S P 3 Replies Last reply
                  4
                  • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                    Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                    By much? With HDR?

                    Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

                    M This user is from outside of this forum
                    M This user is from outside of this forum
                    monotremata@lemmy.ca
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #43

                    I think there’s huge variability, but as a gross overgeneralization AMD gpus run Cyberpunk 2077 a bit faster on Linux than Windows, and nVidia gpus run it a bit slower on Linux than on Windows.

                    If you’ve got a spare usb hard drive you could always install Linux there for a test drive though. You might be able to find a setup that gets you the extra performance you’re looking for.

                    B 1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • nuko147@lemmy.worldN nuko147@lemmy.world

                      How is your idle VRAM (video RAM) holding? For some reason i have 1GB usage in Mint with Cinnamon without anything running, while on windows i have 400MB (although i have optimised them a lot).

                      T This user is from outside of this forum
                      T This user is from outside of this forum
                      Tanis Nikana
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #44

                      I’m not sure. I’m a photographer and comic. I switched to mint cause it’s easy, I’m not much of a computer person.

                      W 1 Reply Last reply
                      14
                      • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                        Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                        By much? With HDR?

                        Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

                        G This user is from outside of this forum
                        G This user is from outside of this forum
                        greencrunch@lemmy.today
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #45

                        I am not sure, as I’ve actually only played it under Linux. I have a laptop with an RTX 3070. It’s able to handle the raytraced low setting at 1080p, but I just run High instead so that the fan isn’t as loud. And in my opinion that even looks pretty good. I might try start it under windows and run its benchmark because I’m curious now! I’ll update here if I remember to do this test.

                        B 1 Reply Last reply
                        3
                        • D dil

                          Beware some issues if your hardware isnt popular, I have freezing on all kernels past 6.136-2, so I’m stuck there. (test them all every update, no matter what I get hella random freezing requiring a power button restart) It is very stable and fast tho, kinda scary thinking the bug never gets fixed tho, still new to Linux and assuming it’s bad to not update the kernel longgerm.

                          H This user is from outside of this forum
                          H This user is from outside of this forum
                          Horsey
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #46

                          I had that issue last time I switched to Linux. Thankfully eventually it went away. It should help to distro hop to a more bleeding edge distro. Fedora specifically gets system updates every night through Discover.

                          D 1 Reply Last reply
                          5
                          • M monotremata@lemmy.ca

                            I think there’s huge variability, but as a gross overgeneralization AMD gpus run Cyberpunk 2077 a bit faster on Linux than Windows, and nVidia gpus run it a bit slower on Linux than on Windows.

                            If you’ve got a spare usb hard drive you could always install Linux there for a test drive though. You might be able to find a setup that gets you the extra performance you’re looking for.

                            B This user is from outside of this forum
                            B This user is from outside of this forum
                            brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                            wrote on last edited by brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                            #47

                            I already dual boot CachyOS! In fact I spent a lot of time tweaking schedulers, power, undervolting the GPU and such for compute performance, but I think it’s well tuned for gaming too.

                            It’s just annoying because I beat the GPU into submission with tons of settings (as Nvidia is funny with Wayland), so its display out is totally disabled. It’s a lot to undo.

                            M 1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                              11% month on month expansion is fucking crazy. You can see from the data it’s mostly Windows 10 users deciding to upgrade to Linux…and even OSX.

                              H This user is from outside of this forum
                              H This user is from outside of this forum
                              Horsey
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #48

                              This is my use case as well. Not that macOS gaming is terrible, it’s just not as good as a dedicated Linux system because of the easier proton translation on Linux than the tinkering required on macOS.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                                By much? With HDR?

                                Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

                                F This user is from outside of this forum
                                F This user is from outside of this forum
                                fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #49

                                Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                                That’s entire dependent on a whole host of things. CPU, GPU, distro (mostly kernel version), open source vs proprietary drivers, proton version etc. Also some numbers can artificially look better if the feature is just straight up ignored by proton, or just broken. If you’re looking for some bleeding edge features then probably not.

                                B 1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • F fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                                  That’s entire dependent on a whole host of things. CPU, GPU, distro (mostly kernel version), open source vs proprietary drivers, proton version etc. Also some numbers can artificially look better if the feature is just straight up ignored by proton, or just broken. If you’re looking for some bleeding edge features then probably not.

                                  B This user is from outside of this forum
                                  B This user is from outside of this forum
                                  brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on last edited by brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                                  #50

                                  7800X3D, Nvidia 3090, CachyOS, the latest arch kernel with whatever tweaks they have, I assume git Proton and all the distro’s riced settings. On CP2077’s side I’d like RTX reflections and DLSS as the only exotic settings, though I did run a mod that hacks in FSR 3.1 framegen.

                                  I realize I probably have to test this myself, heh. But from what I gather (and past experience on a laptop 2060 with Linux) is that Nvidia is disadvantaged on Linux in this scenario.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                                    11% month on month expansion is fucking crazy. You can see from the data it’s mostly Windows 10 users deciding to upgrade to Linux…and even OSX.

                                    O This user is from outside of this forum
                                    O This user is from outside of this forum
                                    olgratin_magmatoe@slrpnk.net
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #51

                                    I wonder how dual boots show up in these stats

                                    V 1 Reply Last reply
                                    3
                                    • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                      Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                                      By much? With HDR?

                                      Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

                                      woelkchen@lemmy.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
                                      woelkchen@lemmy.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
                                      woelkchen@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #52

                                      this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

                                      Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

                                      Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

                                      B M naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.comN 3 Replies Last reply
                                      7
                                      • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                                        this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

                                        Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

                                        Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

                                        B This user is from outside of this forum
                                        B This user is from outside of this forum
                                        brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #53

                                        This is what I was afraid of, and reflects my experience in the past, unfortunately. I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

                                        I would have gotten a 7900 TBH, but prices were terrible at the time.

                                        woelkchen@lemmy.worldW 1 Reply Last reply
                                        1
                                        • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
                                          This post did not contain any content.
                                          seraphineS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          seraphineS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          seraphine
                                          wrote on last edited by seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                          #54

                                          It was written in the scrolls. The day prophezised for hundreds of years: the year of the linux desktop.

                                          V 1 Reply Last reply
                                          59

                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          • First post
                                            Last post