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  • nuko147@lemmy.worldN nuko147@lemmy.world

    How is your idle VRAM (video RAM) holding? For some reason i have 1GB usage in Mint with Cinnamon without anything running, while on windows i have 400MB (although i have optimised them a lot).

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    Tanis Nikana
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    I’m not sure. I’m a photographer and comic. I switched to mint cause it’s easy, I’m not much of a computer person.

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    • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

      Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

      By much? With HDR?

      Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

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      greencrunch@lemmy.today
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      I am not sure, as I’ve actually only played it under Linux. I have a laptop with an RTX 3070. It’s able to handle the raytraced low setting at 1080p, but I just run High instead so that the fan isn’t as loud. And in my opinion that even looks pretty good. I might try start it under windows and run its benchmark because I’m curious now! I’ll update here if I remember to do this test.

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      • D dil

        Beware some issues if your hardware isnt popular, I have freezing on all kernels past 6.136-2, so I’m stuck there. (test them all every update, no matter what I get hella random freezing requiring a power button restart) It is very stable and fast tho, kinda scary thinking the bug never gets fixed tho, still new to Linux and assuming it’s bad to not update the kernel longgerm.

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        Horsey
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        I had that issue last time I switched to Linux. Thankfully eventually it went away. It should help to distro hop to a more bleeding edge distro. Fedora specifically gets system updates every night through Discover.

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        • M monotremata@lemmy.ca

          I think there’s huge variability, but as a gross overgeneralization AMD gpus run Cyberpunk 2077 a bit faster on Linux than Windows, and nVidia gpus run it a bit slower on Linux than on Windows.

          If you’ve got a spare usb hard drive you could always install Linux there for a test drive though. You might be able to find a setup that gets you the extra performance you’re looking for.

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          brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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          #47

          I already dual boot CachyOS! In fact I spent a lot of time tweaking schedulers, power, undervolting the GPU and such for compute performance, but I think it’s well tuned for gaming too.

          It’s just annoying because I beat the GPU into submission with tons of settings (as Nvidia is funny with Wayland), so its display out is totally disabled. It’s a lot to undo.

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          • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

            11% month on month expansion is fucking crazy. You can see from the data it’s mostly Windows 10 users deciding to upgrade to Linux…and even OSX.

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            Horsey
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            This is my use case as well. Not that macOS gaming is terrible, it’s just not as good as a dedicated Linux system because of the easier proton translation on Linux than the tinkering required on macOS.

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            • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

              Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

              By much? With HDR?

              Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

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              fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

              That’s entire dependent on a whole host of things. CPU, GPU, distro (mostly kernel version), open source vs proprietary drivers, proton version etc. Also some numbers can artificially look better if the feature is just straight up ignored by proton, or just broken. If you’re looking for some bleeding edge features then probably not.

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              • F fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                That’s entire dependent on a whole host of things. CPU, GPU, distro (mostly kernel version), open source vs proprietary drivers, proton version etc. Also some numbers can artificially look better if the feature is just straight up ignored by proton, or just broken. If you’re looking for some bleeding edge features then probably not.

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                brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                #50

                7800X3D, Nvidia 3090, CachyOS, the latest arch kernel with whatever tweaks they have, I assume git Proton and all the distro’s riced settings. On CP2077’s side I’d like RTX reflections and DLSS as the only exotic settings, though I did run a mod that hacks in FSR 3.1 framegen.

                I realize I probably have to test this myself, heh. But from what I gather (and past experience on a laptop 2060 with Linux) is that Nvidia is disadvantaged on Linux in this scenario.

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                • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                  11% month on month expansion is fucking crazy. You can see from the data it’s mostly Windows 10 users deciding to upgrade to Linux…and even OSX.

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                  olgratin_magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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                  I wonder how dual boots show up in these stats

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                  • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                    Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                    By much? With HDR?

                    Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

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                    woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                    this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

                    Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

                    Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

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                    • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                      this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

                      Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

                      Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

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                      brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                      This is what I was afraid of, and reflects my experience in the past, unfortunately. I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

                      I would have gotten a 7900 TBH, but prices were terrible at the time.

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                        seraphine
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                        #54

                        It was written in the scrolls. The day prophezised for hundreds of years: the year of the linux desktop.

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                        • poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.deP poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de

                          MS is not going to get them back

                          Until they want to play a multiplayer game with their friends, that doesn’t work because of Anti-Cheat. Or maybe Linux is a bit more involved than they initially realized.

                          Most of those that switched probably won’t go back, but I think with Linux it’s going to be more than someone might think (however it’ll still grow, especially over the coming months with Windows 10 support ending).

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                          Cethin
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                          Almost all multiplayer games work fine. It’s 9noy the garbage that companies like EA put out that choose not to. Just think of it like being a console exclusive, and you don’t own that console. Ignore it. Their games aren’t worth playing anyway. It’s the same garbage as the last 10+ years.

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                            Mugita Sokio
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                            Neigsendoig and I happened to be Linux users since 2020. We’re actually glad to see that people are noticing the writing on the wall.

                            It was inevitable.

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                              palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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                              I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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                              • P palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world

                                I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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                                bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                OpenSUSE has drivers that nVidia releases and hosts on the nVidia repo specifically for Leap or Tumbleweed. I’ve never had driver issues.

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                                • D dil

                                  Beware some issues if your hardware isnt popular, I have freezing on all kernels past 6.136-2, so I’m stuck there. (test them all every update, no matter what I get hella random freezing requiring a power button restart) It is very stable and fast tho, kinda scary thinking the bug never gets fixed tho, still new to Linux and assuming it’s bad to not update the kernel longgerm.

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                                  bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                  Have you tried a different distro base such as Fedora or SUSE compared to Debians based? I have a laptop that will not install Debian based distros due to hardware error or bug, or if it does install they fail to boot with hardware errors messages. Fedora and SUSE work though, and ironically nixOS.

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                                    Kindness is Punk
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                                    Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

                                    Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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                                      Have you tried a different distro base such as Fedora or SUSE compared to Debians based? I have a laptop that will not install Debian based distros due to hardware error or bug, or if it does install they fail to boot with hardware errors messages. Fedora and SUSE work though, and ironically nixOS.

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                                      crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Fedora Kinoite has worked perfectly for me.

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                                      • K Kindness is Punk

                                        Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

                                        Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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                                        coaxil@lemmy.zip
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                                        Yeah, my gaming rig, running bazzite. Works how it should, no fuss, games well. Give it a run I say

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                                        • P palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world

                                          I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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                                          Mwa
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                                          What distro your using?

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