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  • poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.deP poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de

    MS is not going to get them back

    Until they want to play a multiplayer game with their friends, that doesn’t work because of Anti-Cheat. Or maybe Linux is a bit more involved than they initially realized.

    Most of those that switched probably won’t go back, but I think with Linux it’s going to be more than someone might think (however it’ll still grow, especially over the coming months with Windows 10 support ending).

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    Cethin
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    #55

    Almost all multiplayer games work fine. It’s 9noy the garbage that companies like EA put out that choose not to. Just think of it like being a console exclusive, and you don’t own that console. Ignore it. Their games aren’t worth playing anyway. It’s the same garbage as the last 10+ years.

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      Mugita Sokio
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      #56

      Neigsendoig and I happened to be Linux users since 2020. We’re actually glad to see that people are noticing the writing on the wall.

      It was inevitable.

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        palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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        #57

        I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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        • P palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world

          I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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          bcsven@lemmy.ca
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          OpenSUSE has drivers that nVidia releases and hosts on the nVidia repo specifically for Leap or Tumbleweed. I’ve never had driver issues.

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          • D dil

            Beware some issues if your hardware isnt popular, I have freezing on all kernels past 6.136-2, so I’m stuck there. (test them all every update, no matter what I get hella random freezing requiring a power button restart) It is very stable and fast tho, kinda scary thinking the bug never gets fixed tho, still new to Linux and assuming it’s bad to not update the kernel longgerm.

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            bcsven@lemmy.ca
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            Have you tried a different distro base such as Fedora or SUSE compared to Debians based? I have a laptop that will not install Debian based distros due to hardware error or bug, or if it does install they fail to boot with hardware errors messages. Fedora and SUSE work though, and ironically nixOS.

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              Kindness is Punk
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              #60

              Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

              Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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              • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                Have you tried a different distro base such as Fedora or SUSE compared to Debians based? I have a laptop that will not install Debian based distros due to hardware error or bug, or if it does install they fail to boot with hardware errors messages. Fedora and SUSE work though, and ironically nixOS.

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                crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Fedora Kinoite has worked perfectly for me.

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                • K Kindness is Punk

                  Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

                  Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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                  coaxil@lemmy.zip
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                  Yeah, my gaming rig, running bazzite. Works how it should, no fuss, games well. Give it a run I say

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                  • P palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world

                    I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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                    Mwa
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                    What distro your using?

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                    • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                      this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

                      Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

                      Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

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                      Mwa
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                      #64

                      And Directx 12(VKD3D) as of writing this has issues on Nvidia

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                      • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                        This is what I was afraid of, and reflects my experience in the past, unfortunately. I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

                        I would have gotten a 7900 TBH, but prices were terrible at the time.

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                        woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                        I don’t run any hardware with an NVidia GPU on Linux any longer, so I don’t have recent first hand experience but I do follow Linux news and every year or so it’s announced that Nvidia is working on the last feature that’s holding back perfection on Linux. NVidia drivers don’t support implicit sync but now that the Linux graphics layer supports explicit sync, the NVidia drivers make the “Final Steps Towards Ultimate Desktop Experience”. Same BS every year. Nvidia is always lagging behind on Linux.

                        I’ll consider using NVidia with Linux, should NVidia ever enter upstream kernel and Mesa development the same way AMD and Intel do.

                        I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

                        Same here. At one point I was very versed in reinstalling the entire Linux graphics stack because the NVidia driver’s kernel module decided that it is no longer compatible with the lastest kernel update.

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                        • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                          this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

                          Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

                          Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

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                          naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine. Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s.

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                            And Directx 12(VKD3D) as of writing this has issues on Nvidia

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                            brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                            #67

                            Thanks, these are the kind of nuggets I’m looking for.

                            Not that I blame the vulkan translation layer at all. It’s incredible it even works on Nvidia.

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                            • K Kindness is Punk

                              Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

                              Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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                              chaogomu@lemmy.world
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                              My gaming distro of choice is Garuda. As long as I keep everything up to date, everything just works.

                              But it’s also an Arch based distro so everything is bleeding edge, which poses risks of it’s own. I’ve not had it bite me yet, but the risk is there.

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                              • M Mwa

                                What distro your using?

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                                palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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                                I tried Linux mint cinnamon

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                                • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                                  OpenSUSE has drivers that nVidia releases and hosts on the nVidia repo specifically for Leap or Tumbleweed. I’ve never had driver issues.

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                                  palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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                                  I worry about losing performance and I play raytracing games

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                                  • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                                    I don’t run any hardware with an NVidia GPU on Linux any longer, so I don’t have recent first hand experience but I do follow Linux news and every year or so it’s announced that Nvidia is working on the last feature that’s holding back perfection on Linux. NVidia drivers don’t support implicit sync but now that the Linux graphics layer supports explicit sync, the NVidia drivers make the “Final Steps Towards Ultimate Desktop Experience”. Same BS every year. Nvidia is always lagging behind on Linux.

                                    I’ll consider using NVidia with Linux, should NVidia ever enter upstream kernel and Mesa development the same way AMD and Intel do.

                                    I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

                                    Same here. At one point I was very versed in reinstalling the entire Linux graphics stack because the NVidia driver’s kernel module decided that it is no longer compatible with the lastest kernel update.

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                                    brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                    I’ll consider using NVidia with Linux

                                    Screw Nvidia.

                                    I’d be on AMD if they weren’t price gouging just as bad (or worse), or on Intel if they offered 24GB+ cards for less than a car.

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                                    • naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.comN naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine. Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s.

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                                      woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                                      #72

                                      What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine.

                                      Of course. There’s always the ones for whom everything runs fine. These are the ones who aren’t affected by bugs in power management caused by Nvidia drivers because they use desktop PCs and not laptops. These are the ones who still used X11 five years after the rest of the Linux world moved to Wayland and when Nvidia drivers got good enough for Wayland, it’s always “see, how much Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s!!”

                                      Nvidia is lagging years behind on adopting newer technologies in the Linux graphics stack.

                                      Edit: These days it’s “HDR can cause game-breaking graphical artifacts”.

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                                      • S saigot@lemmy.ca

                                        OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching.

                                        Every time they buy a new device they have to switch back to linux, because that device with very few exceptions ships with MS.

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                                        atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        Interesting, my devices always come without OS. And on preconfigured Windows for family first thing I do is wipe it to get rid of all the bloatware it comes with.

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                                        • D DebatableRaccoon

                                          Given the popularity of the Steam Deck, the Xbox handheld would have to come free with the purchase of any Xbox exclusive game to stand a chance in that sphere, I think. The fact that it’s Win11 immediately turns me off and I say this as someone who still uses Windows.

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                                          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          lol, what is this ‘Xbox Exclusive Game’ you speak of, in 2025?

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