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  • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

    Have you tried a different distro base such as Fedora or SUSE compared to Debians based? I have a laptop that will not install Debian based distros due to hardware error or bug, or if it does install they fail to boot with hardware errors messages. Fedora and SUSE work though, and ironically nixOS.

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    crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Fedora Kinoite has worked perfectly for me.

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    • K Kindness is Punk

      Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

      Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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      coaxil@lemmy.zip
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      Yeah, my gaming rig, running bazzite. Works how it should, no fuss, games well. Give it a run I say

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      • P palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world

        I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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        Mwa
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        What distro your using?

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        • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

          this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

          Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

          Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

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          Mwa
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          #64

          And Directx 12(VKD3D) as of writing this has issues on Nvidia

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          • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

            This is what I was afraid of, and reflects my experience in the past, unfortunately. I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

            I would have gotten a 7900 TBH, but prices were terrible at the time.

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            woelkchen@lemmy.world
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            I don’t run any hardware with an NVidia GPU on Linux any longer, so I don’t have recent first hand experience but I do follow Linux news and every year or so it’s announced that Nvidia is working on the last feature that’s holding back perfection on Linux. NVidia drivers don’t support implicit sync but now that the Linux graphics layer supports explicit sync, the NVidia drivers make the “Final Steps Towards Ultimate Desktop Experience”. Same BS every year. Nvidia is always lagging behind on Linux.

            I’ll consider using NVidia with Linux, should NVidia ever enter upstream kernel and Mesa development the same way AMD and Intel do.

            I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

            Same here. At one point I was very versed in reinstalling the entire Linux graphics stack because the NVidia driver’s kernel module decided that it is no longer compatible with the lastest kernel update.

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            • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

              this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction

              Nvidia and Linux don’t have the best history. Their driver are not open source, so Valve developers have no means to improve performance and fix bugs on a driver level.

              Success stories of Linux gaming are usually about Radeon and Arc GPUs whose drivers are fully open source.

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              naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine. Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s.

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              • M Mwa

                And Directx 12(VKD3D) as of writing this has issues on Nvidia

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                brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                #67

                Thanks, these are the kind of nuggets I’m looking for.

                Not that I blame the vulkan translation layer at all. It’s incredible it even works on Nvidia.

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                • K Kindness is Punk

                  Anyone have good experiences with the NVIDIA 50 series on Linux? I’ve tried a bunch different flavors over the years and I’m fairly distro agnostic as long as it doesn’t get too esoteric.

                  Also weird question does anyone know if Single Player Tarkov with Project Fika works on Linux? I think it should

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                  chaogomu@lemmy.world
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                  My gaming distro of choice is Garuda. As long as I keep everything up to date, everything just works.

                  But it’s also an Arch based distro so everything is bleeding edge, which poses risks of it’s own. I’ve not had it bite me yet, but the risk is there.

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                  • M Mwa

                    What distro your using?

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                    palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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                    I tried Linux mint cinnamon

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                    • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                      OpenSUSE has drivers that nVidia releases and hosts on the nVidia repo specifically for Leap or Tumbleweed. I’ve never had driver issues.

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                      palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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                      I worry about losing performance and I play raytracing games

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                      • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                        I don’t run any hardware with an NVidia GPU on Linux any longer, so I don’t have recent first hand experience but I do follow Linux news and every year or so it’s announced that Nvidia is working on the last feature that’s holding back perfection on Linux. NVidia drivers don’t support implicit sync but now that the Linux graphics layer supports explicit sync, the NVidia drivers make the “Final Steps Towards Ultimate Desktop Experience”. Same BS every year. Nvidia is always lagging behind on Linux.

                        I’ll consider using NVidia with Linux, should NVidia ever enter upstream kernel and Mesa development the same way AMD and Intel do.

                        I am intimately familiar with Nvidia’s drivers and my random Linux black screens…

                        Same here. At one point I was very versed in reinstalling the entire Linux graphics stack because the NVidia driver’s kernel module decided that it is no longer compatible with the lastest kernel update.

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                        brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                        I’ll consider using NVidia with Linux

                        Screw Nvidia.

                        I’d be on AMD if they weren’t price gouging just as bad (or worse), or on Intel if they offered 24GB+ cards for less than a car.

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                        • naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.comN naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine. Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s.

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                          woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                          #72

                          What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine.

                          Of course. There’s always the ones for whom everything runs fine. These are the ones who aren’t affected by bugs in power management caused by Nvidia drivers because they use desktop PCs and not laptops. These are the ones who still used X11 five years after the rest of the Linux world moved to Wayland and when Nvidia drivers got good enough for Wayland, it’s always “see, how much Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s!!”

                          Nvidia is lagging years behind on adopting newer technologies in the Linux graphics stack.

                          Edit: These days it’s “HDR can cause game-breaking graphical artifacts”.

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                          • S saigot@lemmy.ca

                            OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching.

                            Every time they buy a new device they have to switch back to linux, because that device with very few exceptions ships with MS.

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                            atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            Interesting, my devices always come without OS. And on preconfigured Windows for family first thing I do is wipe it to get rid of all the bloatware it comes with.

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                            • D DebatableRaccoon

                              Given the popularity of the Steam Deck, the Xbox handheld would have to come free with the purchase of any Xbox exclusive game to stand a chance in that sphere, I think. The fact that it’s Win11 immediately turns me off and I say this as someone who still uses Windows.

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                              sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              lol, what is this ‘Xbox Exclusive Game’ you speak of, in 2025?

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                              • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                                What? I have a 2060 and shit runs fine.

                                Of course. There’s always the ones for whom everything runs fine. These are the ones who aren’t affected by bugs in power management caused by Nvidia drivers because they use desktop PCs and not laptops. These are the ones who still used X11 five years after the rest of the Linux world moved to Wayland and when Nvidia drivers got good enough for Wayland, it’s always “see, how much Nvidia’s drivers have improved a lot since the 2010s!!”

                                Nvidia is lagging years behind on adopting newer technologies in the Linux graphics stack.

                                Edit: These days it’s “HDR can cause game-breaking graphical artifacts”.

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                                naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                I didn’t say there are never any issues I said it’s fine. The idea that “success stories” are only amd is silly. 90/100 times unless you’re using bleeding edge hardware or pathologically fussy you just hit play and stuff works. 9 out of the remaining 10 times you tweak a proton version or wine setting, the other time it’s a driver bug.

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                                • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  lol, what is this ‘Xbox Exclusive Game’ you speak of, in 2025?

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                                  DebatableRaccoon
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                                  A hypothetical one, of course

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                                  • P palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world

                                    I can’t switch because Nvidia Linux drivers suck and AMD X3D chips still have issues.

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                                    randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Nvidia seems to be the biggest hurdle for most people. The simplest solution I’ve found has been universal Blue, Bazzite (specifically the Nvidia images). You don’t have to think twice about Nvidia as everything is preconfigured for you out of the gate, forever, in perpetuity.

                                    I’m not aware of the x3d issues you speak of.

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                                      swab148
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                                      Same here, except for my mom’s computer, because she needs a program for embroidery design that doesn’t work well on Linux despite being in the AUR. It’s called “Embrilliance”, and for some reason the cursor disappears whenever you try to draw freeform, so if anyone has any guidance on that, hit up my DMs, I’d love to solve it for her!

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                                        invalidname2@lemmy.zip
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                                        How do you know if someone owns a Steam Deck? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

                                        So anyway, a couple years ago I bought a Steam Deck. And since I bought it, virtually all of my gaming is on the Deck. Prior to that, virtually all of my game time was on a Windows PC. So, for me personally, there’s been a big shift towards Linux for gaming.

                                        The other big change that’s coming for a lot of people I know: end of Windows 10 support. Honestly, the majority of people I know who still have a traditional Windows PC are using machines that can’t be upgraded to Windows 11. These computers are perfectly functional and do everything the users need them to do, and they have no inclination to go out and buy a new computer just because. Especially in this economy. Additionally, there are quite a few people with computers that are capable of running Windows 11, but they have no desire to upgrade to a worse experience and an experience that is randomly different in a myriad different ways for no good reason. Both groups are ripe for the picking in terms of a switch to Linux. No, the year of the Linux desktop is not here, but the conditions for such a change are building. And this Steam data may present a picture of the larger trend. Who knows?

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                                        • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                          Anyone know if CP2077 runs better on Linux than Windows?

                                          By much? With HDR?

                                          Sorry for the drive by comment, but this is like the one game my 3090 can’t quite handle to my satisfaction. I’ve thoroughly disabled the thing from rendering in Linux and don’t want to undo all that… But if I could get like another 10% over Windows, that would be incredible. Even 5% would be awesome.

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                                          lucidnightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Hey there! Recently downloaded Cyberpunk again to test my graphics card out.

                                          openSUSE Tumbleweed, a 144hz 1080p ultrawide monitor (21:9), i9-10850K, nvidia 5080, raytracing and all settings on ultra, no DLSS fake frames only DLAA

                                          I was getting from 75-120 (120 could be lower or higher as I can’t get to my computer right now) depending on what was on screen. In the city with lots of neon and ads going while driving around? 75-80 fps

                                          Inside a building or not near any of the reflective causing lights? 90-120

                                          I’m pretty sure my CPU is bottlenecking me for the most part, but it has never sweated on anything I threw at it, so didn’t see the need to upgrade just yet.

                                          Hopefully that helps you out a little! I’ve got a lot of games I can report back on too, if needed! 🙂

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