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"This is a blatant, unapologetic act of vicious union busting" - Hundreds of Rockstar employees sign letter to management, demanding fired colleagues get reinstated

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  • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

    what is your plan to fix the issue? please be detailed.

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    prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    #22
    • Support the Rockstar workers fighting the unfair dismissals.
    • Join a union yourself.
    • Help ending capitalism by starting to organize in your neighborhood/social circle.
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    • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net
      • Support the Rockstar workers fighting the unfair dismissals.
      • Join a union yourself.
      • Help ending capitalism by starting to organize in your neighborhood/social circle.
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      nima@leminal.space
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      #23

      oh awesome thanks. I can give you my name and address if you want to go ahead and donate in my name. also I am broke as fuck so you can do that for me too.

      and let me know when you want me to start organizing stuff in my neighborhood with the time i don’t have. you’ll have to come and take over my responsibilities too.

      thanks this is super rewarding!

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      • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

        oh awesome thanks. I can give you my name and address if you want to go ahead and donate in my name. also I am broke as fuck so you can do that for me too.

        and let me know when you want me to start organizing stuff in my neighborhood with the time i don’t have. you’ll have to come and take over my responsibilities too.

        thanks this is super rewarding!

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        prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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        #24

        🙄

        Edit: You asked how to help and I answered. Were did I state that it’s a moral imperative to help if you’re unable to?

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          Obinice
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          #25

          Strange that as this is a UK news story which is particularly big for also being linked to the most gigantic game franchise in the world, I’ve not seen it mentioned in the news here at all.

          I’ve only seen it pop up a few times here and there online, even.

          Is it just that nobody cares, or is Rockstar buying off all the news/media companies? O.o

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          • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

            That’s like a one person with an Excel sheet of work you just describe.
            I can hire you at $Sales/150+you current [IWGB] unionists. How does that read?

            Not UK barred yet.

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            Cevilia (she/they/…)
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            #26

            It’s nowhere near that simple. Not even close. Even forming a limited company or LLP is more than “an Excel sheet” and that’s before you even start the due diligence process. Unless you wanna go the sole trader route, in which case good luck with the whole “unlimited personal liability” thing.

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            • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

              Not gonna solve the union busting. Individual boycotts (without a campaign behind them) don’t work.

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              ripcord@lemmy.world
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              #27

              Oh well then do nothing then I guess

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              • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

                I’m in Japan. You gonna emigrate me to UK to do all that?

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                ripcord@lemmy.world
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                #28

                No one can do anything about anything ever, sorry

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                • ripcord@lemmy.worldR ripcord@lemmy.world

                  Oh well then do nothing then I guess

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                  prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                  Which was what you were planning on doing anyway, isn’t it?

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                  • ObiniceO Obinice

                    Strange that as this is a UK news story which is particularly big for also being linked to the most gigantic game franchise in the world, I’ve not seen it mentioned in the news here at all.

                    I’ve only seen it pop up a few times here and there online, even.

                    Is it just that nobody cares, or is Rockstar buying off all the news/media companies? O.o

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                    prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                    #30

                    Traditional media see video games usually still as some waste of time for kids and have a strong pro-employer bias.

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                    • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                      It’s also ineffective as fuck…

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                      Feydaikin
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                      #31

                      Doesn’t matter.

                      At the end of the day, people actually making a concious decision to not support a company by simply not buying its product is the best you can hope for.

                      You can’t expect some random kid in another country to start looking into American Unions in fields that won’t ever apply to them.

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                      • FeydaikinF Feydaikin

                        Doesn’t matter.

                        At the end of the day, people actually making a concious decision to not support a company by simply not buying its product is the best you can hope for.

                        You can’t expect some random kid in another country to start looking into American Unions in fields that won’t ever apply to them.

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                        prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                        #32

                        I didn’t say “join a gameworker’s union”. Joining a union is a good idea, no matter where you are and what you work as.

                        Not consuming a product is simply that: inaction. And the publisher won’t even notice it, if it’s not connected to a publicity campaign (like e.g. BDS)

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                        • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                          I didn’t say “join a gameworker’s union”. Joining a union is a good idea, no matter where you are and what you work as.

                          Not consuming a product is simply that: inaction. And the publisher won’t even notice it, if it’s not connected to a publicity campaign (like e.g. BDS)

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                          Feydaikin
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                          Well, isn’t that what we’re doing here? The entire point is to communicate you stance to others. And there’s quite a few AAA titles that have suffered simply because the customer base actually can communicate.

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                          • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

                            I feel like the only person in the world who’s never cared for GTA

                            We are also talking about gamers here. How many would give up gta6 just to take a stand? Most will probably say stuff like “no ethical consumption under capitalism” or “it’s not like it’ll make a difference”

                            Gamers gonna game

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                            #34

                            .

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                            • FeydaikinF Feydaikin

                              Well, isn’t that what we’re doing here? The entire point is to communicate you stance to others. And there’s quite a few AAA titles that have suffered simply because the customer base actually can communicate.

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                              prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                              Well, isn’t that what we’re doing here? The entire point is to communicate you stance to others.

                              What you’re doing here is not a coordinated effort.

                              And there’s quite a few AAA titles that have suffered simply because the customer base actually can communicate.

                              Lol. Whut? I can point to no example like that and ample examples where these kinds of “boycots” did squat (like e.g. with the original Modern Warfare 2 not having a server browser).

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                              • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                                🙄

                                Edit: You asked how to help and I answered. Were did I state that it’s a moral imperative to help if you’re unable to?

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                                nima@leminal.space
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                                #36

                                my point was that you are judging those who wanted to help as not doing enough. not being good enough.

                                not everyone can dedicate time. they’re not wrong for wanting to help and not being able to.

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                                • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                                  my point was that you are judging those who wanted to help as not doing enough. not being good enough.

                                  not everyone can dedicate time. they’re not wrong for wanting to help and not being able to.

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                                  prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                                  #37

                                  I’m not judging people by stating that certain strategies don’t work.

                                  It would be judge-y if I stated that they were stupid for believing such a thing. Which was not my intention at all.

                                  Not buying a game is by definition inaction. It’s not the fault of the people that this is the only way left for them to “protest”. But as I said: it’s also not a moral imperative to do anything, if you’re not able to.

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                                  • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

                                    I feel like the only person in the world who’s never cared for GTA

                                    We are also talking about gamers here. How many would give up gta6 just to take a stand? Most will probably say stuff like “no ethical consumption under capitalism” or “it’s not like it’ll make a difference”

                                    Gamers gonna game

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                                    Mika
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                                    This was always strange for my Ukrainian mind. Every Ukrainian I know boycott every russian product everywhere. So ethical consumption is indeed possible if you know about the issue and you have moral compass.

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                                    • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                                      Well, isn’t that what we’re doing here? The entire point is to communicate you stance to others.

                                      What you’re doing here is not a coordinated effort.

                                      And there’s quite a few AAA titles that have suffered simply because the customer base actually can communicate.

                                      Lol. Whut? I can point to no example like that and ample examples where these kinds of “boycots” did squat (like e.g. with the original Modern Warfare 2 not having a server browser).

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                                      Feydaikin
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                                      #39

                                      Well, it has to start somewhere.

                                      From Dragon Age: Veilguard and Suicide Squad to Condord and Redfall. They all underperformed for the same reason. People talked.

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                                      • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                                        I’m not judging people by stating that certain strategies don’t work.

                                        It would be judge-y if I stated that they were stupid for believing such a thing. Which was not my intention at all.

                                        Not buying a game is by definition inaction. It’s not the fault of the people that this is the only way left for them to “protest”. But as I said: it’s also not a moral imperative to do anything, if you’re not able to.

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                                        nima@leminal.space
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                                        Why do you care so much about someone deciding not to buy a game as a result of this? I would say if someone who planned to buy the game decided not to because of this it makes an impact on that person.

                                        That person gets asked by a friend why they didn’t pre-order. they tell them. that friend who didn’t know now knows. it spreads.

                                        you are not the judge of what is and isn’t impactful. or what does and doesn’t matter.

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                                          monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                                          Or better yet: form the union out of spite. All of them.

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