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Wild orcas have been trying to feed people, new research shows

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  • mothra@mander.xyzM mothra@mander.xyz

    They’re trying to domesticate us. Clever strategy. It has potential

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    yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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    I just tried to think how that would actually work given the orca’s inability to build fences on land/what humans would eventually evolve into given the needs of a completely different mindset. Suffice to say, I think I need to stop smoking.

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      Jared Towers, executive director of Bay Cetology, a research nonprofit based in Alert Bay, British Columbia, was on a boat in waters at the northeastern end of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, when a transient orca offered a freshly-killed harbor seal pup. “I did not have my phone out when T046C2 came over and dropped the seal,” Towers wrote in an email, “But I had time to get it when she left it there sinking before circling around to pick it up again.” He took a photo, showing the orca’s still-open, toothy mouth after just releasing the seal.

      New Scientists article link

      Towers says this demonstrates that killer whales are capable of generalised altruism, or kindness. It also shows that orcas can recognise sentience in others and are curious and bold enough to experiment across species, he says.

      Endangered skates saved from extinction by hatching in captivity

      This generalised altruism makes sense in social societies where members benefit from cooperation. Killer whales are also some of the few marine predators that occasionally find themselves with excess prey. Sometimes, a pod will kill a larger whale than they can finish, for example. “You can just leave it, you can play with it or you can use it to explore relationships in your environment,” says Towers.

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      In each of the instances recorded over two decades, orcas approached a person within a length of the orca's body, and dropped freshly hunted prey in front of the human.

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      big_boss_77@lemmynsfw.com
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      For some reason…I find this wildly depressing.

      I can’t quite figure out how to word it… but these magnificent, highly intelligent, apparently compassionate creatures are offering us food and we’re just…

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      this.

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        Jared Towers, executive director of Bay Cetology, a research nonprofit based in Alert Bay, British Columbia, was on a boat in waters at the northeastern end of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, when a transient orca offered a freshly-killed harbor seal pup. “I did not have my phone out when T046C2 came over and dropped the seal,” Towers wrote in an email, “But I had time to get it when she left it there sinking before circling around to pick it up again.” He took a photo, showing the orca’s still-open, toothy mouth after just releasing the seal.

        New Scientists article link

        Towers says this demonstrates that killer whales are capable of generalised altruism, or kindness. It also shows that orcas can recognise sentience in others and are curious and bold enough to experiment across species, he says.

        Endangered skates saved from extinction by hatching in captivity

        This generalised altruism makes sense in social societies where members benefit from cooperation. Killer whales are also some of the few marine predators that occasionally find themselves with excess prey. Sometimes, a pod will kill a larger whale than they can finish, for example. “You can just leave it, you can play with it or you can use it to explore relationships in your environment,” says Towers.

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        Wild orcas have been trying to feed people, new research shows

        In each of the instances recorded over two decades, orcas approached a person within a length of the orca's body, and dropped freshly hunted prey in front of the human.

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        sunshinejogger@feddit.org
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        Woa. I had first read “Orcas feed ON people” and was like… And then I read it again and all was good

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        • mothra@mander.xyzM mothra@mander.xyz

          They’re trying to domesticate us. Clever strategy. It has potential

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          hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I enjoy the idea that we’re basically feral neighborhood cats to them.

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          • Y yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today

            Anything involving SeaWorld.

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            mothra@mander.xyz
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            Fine, you did it. Party pooper.

            Free orcas make the best news headlines. Change my mind

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            • mothra@mander.xyzM mothra@mander.xyz

              Fine, you did it. Party pooper.

              Free orcas make the best news headlines. Change my mind

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              yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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              It hurts to be called a party pooper.

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                Jared Towers, executive director of Bay Cetology, a research nonprofit based in Alert Bay, British Columbia, was on a boat in waters at the northeastern end of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, when a transient orca offered a freshly-killed harbor seal pup. “I did not have my phone out when T046C2 came over and dropped the seal,” Towers wrote in an email, “But I had time to get it when she left it there sinking before circling around to pick it up again.” He took a photo, showing the orca’s still-open, toothy mouth after just releasing the seal.

                New Scientists article link

                Towers says this demonstrates that killer whales are capable of generalised altruism, or kindness. It also shows that orcas can recognise sentience in others and are curious and bold enough to experiment across species, he says.

                Endangered skates saved from extinction by hatching in captivity

                This generalised altruism makes sense in social societies where members benefit from cooperation. Killer whales are also some of the few marine predators that occasionally find themselves with excess prey. Sometimes, a pod will kill a larger whale than they can finish, for example. “You can just leave it, you can play with it or you can use it to explore relationships in your environment,” says Towers.

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                Wild orcas have been trying to feed people, new research shows

                In each of the instances recorded over two decades, orcas approached a person within a length of the orca's body, and dropped freshly hunted prey in front of the human.

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                elucubra@sopuli.xyz
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                Orcas almost never attack humans, as to be essentially anecdotal, and most of the times attributed to error. The attacks on boats have often ended in the crews bailing out and ignored by the orcas, who were clearly attacking the boats, not the humans.

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                • Y yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today

                  It hurts to be called a party pooper.

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                  mothra@mander.xyz
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                  Didn’t mean to hurt, can I hug you?

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                  • Y yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today

                    I just tried to think how that would actually work given the orca’s inability to build fences on land/what humans would eventually evolve into given the needs of a completely different mindset. Suffice to say, I think I need to stop smoking.

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                    natakunox@lemmy.world
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                    Or you need to smoke more. Reach that higher plane of thinking

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                    • natakunox@lemmy.worldN natakunox@lemmy.world

                      Or you need to smoke more. Reach that higher plane of thinking

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                      yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                      Now you’re thinking with portals!

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                      • E elucubra@sopuli.xyz

                        Orcas almost never attack humans, as to be essentially anecdotal, and most of the times attributed to error. The attacks on boats have often ended in the crews bailing out and ignored by the orcas, who were clearly attacking the boats, not the humans.

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                        typotyper@sh.itjust.works
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                        There are old stories from whaling colonies in the south Atlantic (Falklands if my memory is correct) where orcas would rescue sailors who fell overboard. The sailors /whalers often fed the orcas scraps. So either kindness or taking care of the hand that feeds them.

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