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  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

    Two things:
    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

    Al SweigartA This user is from outside of this forum
    Al SweigartA This user is from outside of this forum
    Al Sweigart
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    #4

    @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

    I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

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    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      Two things:
      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

      Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
      Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
      Miah Johnson
      wrote last edited by
      #5

      @Ashedryden Guess its time to spin up a mumble service!

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      • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

        @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

        I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

        Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
        Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
        Ashe Dryden
        wrote last edited by
        #6

        @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

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        • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

          You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

          Annika BackstromA This user is from outside of this forum
          Annika BackstromA This user is from outside of this forum
          Annika Backstrom
          wrote last edited by
          #7

          @Ashedryden TIL there was already an update to the "nobody knows you're a dog" cartoon. 11 years since the revision and it's still getting worse https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/irl-on-the-internet-no-one-knows-youre-doggo/

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          • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            Two things:
            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

            Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
            Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
            Koen Hufkens, PhD
            wrote last edited by
            #8

            @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

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            • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

              @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

              Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
              Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
              Ashe Dryden
              wrote last edited by
              #9

              @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

                Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
                Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
                Koen Hufkens, PhD
                wrote last edited by
                #10

                @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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                • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

                  @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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                  Death Stranding Photo Mode Being Used to Bypass Age Verification

                  Users across the UK are using Death Stranding's photo mode as a way to bypass age verification measures brought on by the Online Safety Act.

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                  Game Rant (gamerant.com)

                  Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Koen Hufkens, PhD
                  wrote last edited by
                  #11

                  @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    Two things:
                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                    The TenuousOrder :NDpride:T This user is from outside of this forum
                    The TenuousOrder :NDpride:T This user is from outside of this forum
                    The TenuousOrder :NDpride:
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                    #12

                    @Ashedryden dammit.

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                    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                      John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      John Maxwell
                      wrote last edited by
                      #13

                      @Ashedryden Also, we're giving the kids a reason to investigate decentralized services.

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                      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                        GourdG This user is from outside of this forum
                        GourdG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Gourd
                        wrote last edited by
                        #14

                        @Ashedryden it's not like they had an age verification information breach announced uh, three months ago or anything </sarcasm>

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                        • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                          Flash Mob Of OneF This user is from outside of this forum
                          Flash Mob Of OneF This user is from outside of this forum
                          Flash Mob Of One
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                          #15

                          @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                          Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                          Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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                          • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                            Netraven
                            wrote last edited by
                            #16

                            @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                            • NetravenN Netraven

                              @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

                              Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
                              Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
                              Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈
                              wrote last edited by
                              #17

                              @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                midnight postingT This user is from outside of this forum
                                midnight postingT This user is from outside of this forum
                                midnight posting
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                                #18

                                @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                                I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                                Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

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                                • Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈

                                  @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

                                  NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Netraven
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @fiend_unpleasant @Ashedryden

                                  It's almost high time to take back IRC. All the epstein-owned 4channers and lowlife trolls are almost all dead or moved on to psych wards or careers in politics.

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                                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    Two things:
                                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                    Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                    This is just another straw on the camels back.

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                                    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                      decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      decapitae
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @Ashedryden Goodbye discord.

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                                      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        Two things:
                                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                        BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Beau
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #22

                                        @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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                                        • Flash Mob Of OneF Flash Mob Of One

                                          @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                                          Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                                          Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

                                          Hypolite PetovanH This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Hypolite PetovanH This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Hypolite Petovan
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #23

                                          @FlashMobOfOne @Ashedryden This is a fatalist outlook. ICE’s current efforts to obtain advertisers’ data for their witch hunt shows that the scope of the data you give to each individual platform is extremely relevant.

                                          Secondly, if regulation is necessary, it should be towards corporations’ actions, not users exposing additional data to a growing list of platforms with poor security track history.

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