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  • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

    @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

    I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

    Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
    Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
    Ashe Dryden
    wrote last edited by
    #6

    @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

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    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

      You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

      Annika BackstromA This user is from outside of this forum
      Annika BackstromA This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #7

      @Ashedryden TIL there was already an update to the "nobody knows you're a dog" cartoon. 11 years since the revision and it's still getting worse https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/irl-on-the-internet-no-one-knows-youre-doggo/

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      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        Two things:
        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

        Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
        Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
        Koen Hufkens, PhD
        wrote last edited by
        #8

        @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

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        • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

          @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

          Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
          Ashe DrydenA This user is from outside of this forum
          Ashe Dryden
          wrote last edited by
          #9

          @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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          • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

            @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

            Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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            Koen Hufkens, PhD
            wrote last edited by
            #10

            @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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            • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

              @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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              Death Stranding Photo Mode Being Used to Bypass Age Verification

              Users across the UK are using Death Stranding's photo mode as a way to bypass age verification measures brought on by the Online Safety Act.

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              Game Rant (gamerant.com)

              Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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              Koen Hufkens, PhD
              wrote last edited by
              #11

              @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                Two things:
                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                The TenuousOrder :NDpride:T This user is from outside of this forum
                The TenuousOrder :NDpride:T This user is from outside of this forum
                The TenuousOrder :NDpride:
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                #12

                @Ashedryden dammit.

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                • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                  Two things:
                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                  John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  John Maxwell
                  wrote last edited by
                  #13

                  @Ashedryden Also, we're giving the kids a reason to investigate decentralized services.

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                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    Two things:
                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                    GourdG This user is from outside of this forum
                    GourdG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #14

                    @Ashedryden it's not like they had an age verification information breach announced uh, three months ago or anything </sarcasm>

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                    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                      Flash Mob Of OneF This user is from outside of this forum
                      Flash Mob Of OneF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #15

                      @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                      Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                      Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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                      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                        Netraven
                        wrote last edited by
                        #16

                        @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                        • NetravenN Netraven

                          @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

                          Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈
                          wrote last edited by
                          #17

                          @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                          • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                            midnight postingT This user is from outside of this forum
                            midnight postingT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #18

                            @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                            I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                            Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

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                            • Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈

                              @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

                              NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #19

                              @fiend_unpleasant @Ashedryden

                              It's almost high time to take back IRC. All the epstein-owned 4channers and lowlife trolls are almost all dead or moved on to psych wards or careers in politics.

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                              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈
                                wrote last edited by
                                #20

                                @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                This is just another straw on the camels back.

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                                • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                  Two things:
                                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                  decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  decapitae
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                                  #21

                                  @Ashedryden Goodbye discord.

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                                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    Two things:
                                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                    BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Beau
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #22

                                    @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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                                    • Flash Mob Of OneF Flash Mob Of One

                                      @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                                      Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                                      Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

                                      Hypolite PetovanH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Hypolite PetovanH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Hypolite Petovan
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #23

                                      @FlashMobOfOne @Ashedryden This is a fatalist outlook. ICE’s current efforts to obtain advertisers’ data for their witch hunt shows that the scope of the data you give to each individual platform is extremely relevant.

                                      Secondly, if regulation is necessary, it should be towards corporations’ actions, not users exposing additional data to a growing list of platforms with poor security track history.

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                                      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        Two things:
                                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                        retechR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        retechR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #24

                                        @Ashedryden What protections do we have as users? None. I'll willingly go into the dark over this. Eventually I'll have to use pigeons and smoke signals to communicate with the world.

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                                        • Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈P Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈

                                          @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                          This is just another straw on the camels back.

                                          Nina Felwitch :v_trans:N This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Nina Felwitch :v_trans:N This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Nina Felwitch :v_trans:
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #25

                                          @phantasus @Ashedryden
                                          I chose to delete my facebook accounts. WhatsApp, Instagram, gone. When a friend planned their birthday party, they had a WhatsApp group where they discussed who would bring what and what everyone would wear.

                                          Of course I was not in that group. I didn't know there was a desscode. I didn't know everyone would bring salad and stuff like that.
                                          I was already excluded, because I have principles.

                                          Friends buy the most recent Ubisoft game, or EA game, or Bethesda game, or Nintendo game, or some other game released by a shady company. I can't. I'm excluded from their talks about their new favorite game, because I have principles.

                                          Friends send me Tiktok links, or Instagram links, or Facebook links. I can't access them because I don't have accounts there. I'm excluded.

                                          The majority of people will freely give up their ID to companies with bad cyber security.
                                          I won't. And I'll be excluded again.

                                          Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈P 1 Reply Last reply
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