I’ve been in Europe for a week each month this summer for work. I usually just eat in via groceries, but if it’s a café for a coffee in the morning or a dinner out with colleagues the prices are reasonable and tipping is a few €/£ for the entire group, if at all. No card tap payment is handed back to you with pre-calculated tip buttons. It just makes coming back to the US and paying relatively the same price for a meal and then being asked for 20% on top of that seem like bullshit.

Lobby for better labor laws.

Servers are the main opposition to this as they want to make even more via tips. This doesn’t change that tips are optional.

If you aren’t talking about why tipping is a thing. Just shut up about this. Be an asshole or don’t. But just shut the fuck up.

There’s no reason to be mad at people who are underpaid. Be mad about why and how they’re underpaid. Be mad at who is underpaying them.

No one downvoted you (or at least I didn’t). I’ll keep an eye out next time, but I usually pay cash and it’s exactly what the meal costs.

I refuse to tip in any situation where someone just makes something and hands it to me. Bare minimum, at least take my order at the table, and deliver it to my table. That gets you 10%.

I like that the image shows 5/10/15%. I haven’t seen THAT since the early 2000s. More commonly, starting 15/20/25 or 15/18/20, these days.

Absolutely infuriating.

Every generation since the boomers has had 1/4th the proportional wealth of the previous generation at the same points in their development.

Millennials have 1/4th the buying power of boomers, gen-z has 1/16th the buying power of boomers at any given age.

Wealth inequality is killing us all

Do not make blanket statements like this about the United States. Every state has different laws. Quite a few states have laws on the books that legally require all employees regardless of work to be paid full minimum wage so anyone making tips is getting paid significantly better than all the other minimum wage workers around them

It literally takes one to three finger presses on a machine to opt out of tipping when you don’t feel like it’s appropriate. I don’t understand why this has to be discussed over and over. It’s the lowest hanging fruit social norms change ever.

The thing is, touristy places like Vancouver will only ever see these go up because tourists are generally biased to believe that tipping 20% is normal. Get used to choosing “Other %”, it’s that easy.

I stopped tipping a while ago. For most places anyway.

And you’re not even allowed to know what the tax is beforehand.

No… it’s the servers themselves who keep perpetuating this shit and supporting it in online discussions

ALL service workers are underpaid, but restaurant servers are making out like bandits.

Tipping sucks for the obvious systemic reasons. But also, the entitlement of service staff is problematic.

Nothing bullshit about a table charge. Happens in italy as well (coperto).

it’s upfront, and it’s a small, reasonable charge. It’a not some bullshit, guilt-trip guessing game at the end of the night when they hand you the credit card machine

It’s the fact that they AREN’T upfront about it a lot of times that bothers me. Not the table charge itself. I wasn’t clear about that, sorry.

Absolutely, it’s fair to say that min wage is low. But it’s not fair to only give extra money to restaurant service. The restaurant staff are not entitled to a higher wage than other min wage workers. Especially since 2022 when the separate server wage was abolished.

These types of comments don’t say what should happen when a certain policy objective has been achieved. That is, of course, stop tipping. Instead there is a desire to get min wage + extra tips.