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The hidden mental health danger in today’s high-THC cannabis

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  • LustyArgonianL LustyArgonian

    Try salvia

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    fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
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    I did. That shit was wild. Didn’t get too much anxiety though. Weird shit started to happen.

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      “That is straight up stupid. Sugar is not a drug. …”

      This you?

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      fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
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      After 2 separate people started talking about sugar. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills

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      • F fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world

        I did. That shit was wild. Didn’t get too much anxiety though. Weird shit started to happen.

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        chakravanti@monero.town
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        Dissociatives phenomenally well translate all the weirdness of Salvia D. Especially DXM.

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          This article brought to you by Budweiser

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            vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            #37

            I get that this is fear mongering propaganda but also, I kinda hate that you can’t buy any old school pot anymore.

            28% THC with no CBD just isn’t very enjoyable to me tbh.

            I miss that stuff that was like 18% THC and at least 0.5% CBD.

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            • V vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              I get that this is fear mongering propaganda but also, I kinda hate that you can’t buy any old school pot anymore.

              28% THC with no CBD just isn’t very enjoyable to me tbh.

              I miss that stuff that was like 18% THC and at least 0.5% CBD.

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              honytawk@feddit.nl
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              You can also just buy straight up CBD and mix until your hearts content.

              You don’t have to fill it to the brim with high grade pot if you don’t want to.

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              • LustyArgonianL LustyArgonian

                Willie Nelson looks great and sounds great for his age, with a case study like that I’m not putting down the cannabis

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                honytawk@feddit.nl
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                I mean, outliers always exist. Don’t think those are the norm.

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                • F fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world

                  THC is the least harmful, yet scariest drug I’ve ever taken.

                  EDIT: I’m pretty sure you people are all high. I never said pot was dangerous. In fact, I said the opposite. I was making a point that high doses of THC are terrifying.

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                  honytawk@feddit.nl
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                  You’re right, don’t mind the other commenters.

                  With edibles or just strong weed, you can have heart palpitations that make you think you are dying. You aren’t actually going to, but it can feel that way when you are mega stoned.

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                  • V vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    I get that this is fear mongering propaganda but also, I kinda hate that you can’t buy any old school pot anymore.

                    28% THC with no CBD just isn’t very enjoyable to me tbh.

                    I miss that stuff that was like 18% THC and at least 0.5% CBD.

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                    #41

                    1.) It’s stupid easy to grow your own for next to nothing, in “stealth” containers ranging from 5gal buckets to full-on multi-plant gargants. (See: “space buckets” — and check your local laws)

                    2.) It’s called weed for a reason. Set a reminder on your phone to water, prune, tend to your buddy. Spend as little or as much as you feel like, depending on how into the new, meditative hobby you’ve embarked on.

                    3.) Realize you’ve been spending far too much on something you can set & (mostly) forget.

                    4.) Enjoy!

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                    • medgremlin@midwest.socialM medgremlin@midwest.social

                      Schizophrenia is a mental health disorder that can be triggered by psychoactive substances, trauma, or other significant events/life changes. Not everyone who has schizophrenia was guaranteed to get it, it’s just that some people have the potential for it. A psychotic episode (whether substance-induced or organic) is a common trigger to cause schizophrenia in someone that had the potential to develop the disorder.

                      If you have a family history of mental illnesses (particularly Schizophrenia and Bipolar disorder), significant THC use and substance-induced psychotic episodes can be the grain that tips the scale towards developing the disorder that may have otherwise been avoided.

                      (TL;DR: if Schizophrenia runs in your family, be exceedingly careful about what psychoactive substances you use.)

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                      Yep. I had a close friend that accepted a grip of shrooms from some random chicks at a house party, only to find out the hard way that night that his estranged (since ~birth) father’s side of the family had a high risk for schizophrenia… Be careful, friends. Knowledge is power. Use your damn brains, please.

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                        Yep. I had a close friend that accepted a grip of shrooms from some random chicks at a house party, only to find out the hard way that night that his estranged (since ~birth) father’s side of the family had a high risk for schizophrenia… Be careful, friends. Knowledge is power. Use your damn brains, please.

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                        medgremlin@midwest.social
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                        I work in medicine (mostly emergency medicine), and I have seen a lot of people end up with their lives completely torn apart because of permanent effects of psychotropic drugs. CBD has a lot of benefits and some real clinical evidence backing it up, but there really aren’t any non-recreational uses for THC and the people who want to use marijuana for calming effects can get CBD on its own these days.

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                        • A atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works

                          Schizophrenia is better treated the earlier it is diagnosed. We are not talking about people who “might develop schizophrenia one day” but those who found out they had it as a result of this process perhaps earlier than they would have otherwise.

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                          medgremlin@midwest.social
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                          The earlier its diagnosed, the more severe it tends to be. If someone has schizophrenia triggered under the age of 25, the massive shift in the balance of neurotransmitters has a significant effect on the continuing development of the brain. The frontal cortex (the executive function, intelligence/wisdom, and common sense part of the brain) is the last part to finish developing. That’s why you can have teenagers and college-aged kids that are extremely smart academically, but absolute morons when it comes to decision making and self-restraint.

                          Schizophrenia is characterized by massive overloading of dopamine to the point that the brain malfunctions, and the medications used to treat it (anti-psychotics) mostly work by dulling the effects of dopamine and limiting its production. Finding the right anti-psychotic and right dose of that drug can take a lot of trial and error, and that’s all time lost for ongoing development of that person’s brain. Dopamine is a very important neurotransmitter, so if someone has severe schizophrenia requiring strong dopamine inhibition, they can end up with a lot of nasty side effects.

                          The medications have long term effects too and there’s kind of a maximum amount of time you can be on an anti-psychotic before you start having a form of medication-induced Parkinsonism. If someone’s schizophrenia gets triggered then diagnosed and treated earlier, it means they are going to start having those Parkinson’s symptoms that much earlier.

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                          • W woodscientist@lemmy.world

                            There is no age where the brain stops developing. The idea that the brain stops developing at age 25 is a myth. This myth comes brain studies that studied brain development…up to an age of 25. Pediatric studies of brain development don’t extend into far adulthood.

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                            ‘Your brain isn’t fully formed until you’re 25’: A neuroscientist demolishes the greatest mind myth | BBC Science Focus Magazine

                            Whether you are young or old, your brain is always changing.

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                            BBC Science Focus Magazine (www.sciencefocus.com)

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                            This is a misrepresentation. Development or maturation of the brain finishes around 25 years old. In this context, “development” refers to the completion of the adult form of the organ. The ongoing “development” that this blog post refers to is more accurately described as neuroplasticity. There is an ongoing potential for the brain to create new connections and reinforce existing ones throughout life, but the actual mature form of the frontal cortex is not complete until your mid-twenties.

                            Another way to explain this would be to use breasts as an example. As a biologically female girl goes through puberty, her breasts grow as her body develops mammary tissue and the surrounding/supporting structures. This is called secondary sexual development. If you used the word “development” the same way that blog post does, then the changes to the breast throughout adulthood (such as milk production, skin sagging, loss of adipose) would also be called “development”, but that doesn’t make sense when we’re talking about development of sexual characteristics. Those are ongoing changes to the breast, but it is not the same thing as the initial development stage that is equivalent to the initial development and maturation of the brain that finishes in a person’s mid-twenties.

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                            • V vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              I get that this is fear mongering propaganda but also, I kinda hate that you can’t buy any old school pot anymore.

                              28% THC with no CBD just isn’t very enjoyable to me tbh.

                              I miss that stuff that was like 18% THC and at least 0.5% CBD.

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                              console.log(bathing_in_bismuth)
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                              This is not propaganda. Cite any sentence you think is propaganda and I will explain why its not ;with journals to back it up

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                                console.log(bathing_in_bismuth)
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                                The “but alcohol is worse and its legal” crowd really rustles my jimmies in a bad way. I propose any reader to go trough every comment and post the best arguments for this being “fearmongering propaganda” under this reply.

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                                • medgremlin@midwest.socialM medgremlin@midwest.social

                                  Schizophrenia is a mental health disorder that can be triggered by psychoactive substances, trauma, or other significant events/life changes. Not everyone who has schizophrenia was guaranteed to get it, it’s just that some people have the potential for it. A psychotic episode (whether substance-induced or organic) is a common trigger to cause schizophrenia in someone that had the potential to develop the disorder.

                                  If you have a family history of mental illnesses (particularly Schizophrenia and Bipolar disorder), significant THC use and substance-induced psychotic episodes can be the grain that tips the scale towards developing the disorder that may have otherwise been avoided.

                                  (TL;DR: if Schizophrenia runs in your family, be exceedingly careful about what psychoactive substances you use.)

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                                  console.log(bathing_in_bismuth)
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                                  Someone has to be the first so your descendants can say it runs in the family.

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                                    The “but alcohol is worse and its legal” crowd really rustles my jimmies in a bad way. I propose any reader to go trough every comment and post the best arguments for this being “fearmongering propaganda” under this reply.

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                                    killer57@lemmy.ca
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                                    Man it almost like there is a known correlation between alcohol and violence or something.

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                                    • H honytawk@feddit.nl

                                      I mean, outliers always exist. Don’t think those are the norm.

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                                      LustyArgonian
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                                      By definition of what a norm is, no, an outlier wouldn’t be the norm. But who’s to say Willie’s physical reaction to cannabis is an outlier?

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                                      • F fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world

                                        I did. That shit was wild. Didn’t get too much anxiety though. Weird shit started to happen.

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                                        LustyArgonian
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                                        It usually induces terror (adrenaline/cortisol) depending on how much you do

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                                        • B console.log(bathing_in_bismuth)

                                          Someone has to be the first so your descendants can say it runs in the family.

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                                          Given that, as a species, we have only just recently figured out how to diagnose any of these things, it is highly unlikely that these conditions are nowhere in your family lineage. There is always the possibility of de novo mutations that can shake things up, but people with schizophrenia used to just be called generically insane…or they were prophets or cult leaders if they rolled high on Charisma.

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