Btw, this is a goal of mine I can't expect other people to have it also and that's not the point!

Perhaps showing it's possible to maybe inspire or something!

@stux what are your feelings about motorcycles?

Much smaller ecological footprint. I was car-free in SF for many years, but then I found that having two wheels expanded my spheres a lot.

@stux you can easily say "fuck cars" in the Netherlands, as you live in the most densely populated area of Europe, but not having a car in most towns is not up to each one of us

@stux I dislike bikes, myself, they're more annoying and you have to pedal when you want to go somewhere, wasting your own energy on transport. luckily I don't need anymore, my mom sold the tamdem bike.

@stux Despite even living in a place with generally good public transport comlunications and schedules, sometimes I feel the necessity to drive a car, although I don't have one yet.

@alberto that is correct! And I will indeed 🫣

@icg937 We also do sometimes drive one in rare occasions but we loan one for that

it would be waaaay to expensive to own a car for such little use

@travisfw Hm, a lot better already!

If it's not one that has been build to produce as much sound as possible.. I kinda hate those

@stux While I have a car and drive it 23 times a week, I refuse to live anywhere where driving a car is the only option to get around.

@stux i have not owned for a lot longer (ok not a lot), i still bike...