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  • C chuckleslord@lemmy.world

    Incorrect. Commoner is all 10s

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    festnt@sh.itjust.works
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    #23

    i like how according to this everyone just has a big stick stowed away somehere

    edit: wait now that i looked again, those are the exact stats for a fist in pf2e if you were level 0 and trained in unarmed attacks

    assuming dnd fists work similarly, why didn’t they just put in a fist instead of a club?

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    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deD dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de

      10 is average for an adventuring hero. Not necessarily for most “civilians” if you want to call them that.

      Edit: I stand corrected. Must have confused it with some other system or an older edition.

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      cjoll4@lemmy.world
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      12.5 is average for an adventuring hero using the standard array plus typical adjustments for race.

      Even if you roll 3d6 across the board with no adjustments, old school, 10.5 is average.

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      • R redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com

        Charisma is essentially Social Skills.

        Social Skills definitely help you get laid, but also convince a shopkeeper to give you a discount, persuade a guard to look the other way, etc.

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        draces@lemmy.world
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        Not really. It’s more broad and includes it’s original meaning of divine grace or presence. Why would sorcerer’s spellcasting ability be charisma? It’s broader than social charisma since sorcerer’s cast with their innate abilities.

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          #26

          Wisdom is such a weird attribute in ttrpgs, it is often overloaded with the concept of perception. But at the same time I don’t necessarily think it should be split to it’s own thing, more attributes aren’t necessarily better.

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          • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deD dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de

            10 is average for an adventuring hero. Not necessarily for most “civilians” if you want to call them that.

            Edit: I stand corrected. Must have confused it with some other system or an older edition.

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            JackbyDev
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            #27

            Incorrect, 10 is the average for the average human.

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            • festnt@sh.itjust.worksF festnt@sh.itjust.works

              i like how according to this everyone just has a big stick stowed away somehere

              edit: wait now that i looked again, those are the exact stats for a fist in pf2e if you were level 0 and trained in unarmed attacks

              assuming dnd fists work similarly, why didn’t they just put in a fist instead of a club?

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              JackbyDev
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              #28

              I was like “do I?” And looked around my room for the first thing I could use as an improvised club and my eyes landed on a sex toy.

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              • R redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com

                I have never seen Intelligence contrasted with Wisdom in a way that felt fitting. Does an intelligent person not know when not to speak?

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                monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                #29

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                  mourningdove@lemmy.zip
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                  #30

                  Those are SO not in the order I remember back when I used to pay.

                  It was:

                  STR
                  INT
                  WIS
                  DEX
                  CON
                  CHA.

                  As an added bonus, I remember the coin on the character sheets as being:

                  Gold
                  Silver
                  Copper
                  Platinum
                  Electrum

                  Probably helps to know I played in the late 70’s when campaigns like Keep on the Borderlands was a new thing and came in a box.

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                  • T Tar_Alcaran

                    Int is knowing what you’re talking about

                    Wis is knowing when to talk

                    Cha is when people listen to you

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                    mourningdove@lemmy.zip
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                    #31

                    What was the old saying?

                    Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom Is knowing not to bake it into a cake.

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                    • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

                      What was the old saying?

                      Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom Is knowing not to bake it into a cake.

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                      heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                      #32

                      wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad

                      charisma is selling salsa

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                      • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

                        I was like “do I?” And looked around my room for the first thing I could use as an improvised club and my eyes landed on a sex toy.

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                        festnt@sh.itjust.works
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                        #33

                        well it’ll work

                        unless it’s too flexible, idk what kind of toy it is

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                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                          wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad

                          charisma is selling salsa

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                          mourningdove@lemmy.zip
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                          #34

                          Hah! Good one!

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                            _stranger_@lemmy.world
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                            CHA is knowing what to say to get what you want.

                            A paladin uses CHA because they have to know exactly what to say to their deity to get the result they need. If they can’t rizz up their gods, they get no power.

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                            • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

                              Wisdom is such a weird attribute in ttrpgs, it is often overloaded with the concept of perception. But at the same time I don’t necessarily think it should be split to it’s own thing, more attributes aren’t necessarily better.

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                              _stranger_@lemmy.world
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                              I think fallout’s S.P.E.C.I.A.L works quite well.

                              Wisdom isn’t a thing by itself, it’s split between perception, charisma, and intelligence, for the most part.

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                              • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

                                Those are SO not in the order I remember back when I used to pay.

                                It was:

                                STR
                                INT
                                WIS
                                DEX
                                CON
                                CHA.

                                As an added bonus, I remember the coin on the character sheets as being:

                                Gold
                                Silver
                                Copper
                                Platinum
                                Electrum

                                Probably helps to know I played in the late 70’s when campaigns like Keep on the Borderlands was a new thing and came in a box.

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                                iunnrais@lemmy.world
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                                Hey, I’m all for nostalgia, but reordering it to separate the physical stats from the mental ones was a very good idea. I’m pretty sure my first game back when I was… 10? (long time ago)… also used the Str Int Wis order. But you know… that order got changed REAL fast… 2e, iirc. And good riddance.

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                                  jankatarch@lemmy.world
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                                  Vitality: Whatever it is that makes wild hogs unkillable.

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                                  • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

                                    Those are SO not in the order I remember back when I used to pay.

                                    It was:

                                    STR
                                    INT
                                    WIS
                                    DEX
                                    CON
                                    CHA.

                                    As an added bonus, I remember the coin on the character sheets as being:

                                    Gold
                                    Silver
                                    Copper
                                    Platinum
                                    Electrum

                                    Probably helps to know I played in the late 70’s when campaigns like Keep on the Borderlands was a new thing and came in a box.

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                                    quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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                                    #39

                                    Wasn’t it copper-silver-electrum-gold-platinum? That would be the order of value as I remember it but I haven’t looked at the boxed stuff in years.

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                                      The words in the pictures have some diabolical keming

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                                      • _ _stranger_@lemmy.world

                                        I think fallout’s S.P.E.C.I.A.L works quite well.

                                        Wisdom isn’t a thing by itself, it’s split between perception, charisma, and intelligence, for the most part.

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                                        quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Intelligence is being able to describe why rain exists and why it is raining. Wisdom is understanding that you can do the above while not standing in a rainstorm

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                                        • Q quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works

                                          Wasn’t it copper-silver-electrum-gold-platinum? That would be the order of value as I remember it but I haven’t looked at the boxed stuff in years.

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                                          mourningdove@lemmy.zip
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                                          #42

                                          You’d think, but nope. Not as I recall.

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