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  • Colin WatsonC Colin Watson

    @cstross @lispi314 It hasn't been relevant since websites entered the general public's consciousness. I became an adult a few years after the relevant change in the law and I've been a (mostly ...) perfectly functional adult for the three decades or so ever since without ever having bothered to learn how to wire a plug. Literally never needed that skill.

    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cjwatson @lispi314 I haven't needed it in a couple of decades either, but still, I know how not to kill myself (get @feorag to do it for me).

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    • James πŸŒˆπŸ’œS James πŸŒˆπŸ’œ

      @oddhack @cstross

      Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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      (www.macquarie.com.au)

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      @shaknais @oddhack @cstross off off off off <mashes the no button>

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      • Brian SwetlandS Brian Swetland

        @cstross Was (1) due to variation in outlet designs in different locales or some other reason?

        Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

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        • James πŸŒˆπŸ’œS James πŸŒˆπŸ’œ

          @oddhack @cstross

          Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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          (www.macquarie.com.au)

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          @shaknais hahaha, of course it’s Macquarie.

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          • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

            @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

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            @nygl @cstross you gotta wire it like that because of the Coriolis forces

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            • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

              @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

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              #96

              @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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              • C.S.StrowbridgeC C.S.Strowbridge

                @cstross

                "1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs)."

                This is such a stupid thing.

                The plug itself is very good, but having to wire it yourself is painfully dumb.

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                #97

                @csstrowbridge @cstross It’s not difficult. My dad taught me how, though the wire colours were different when I was a kid. There is an easy mnemonic for the current colours.

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                • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                  @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

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                  @drahardja @cstross This plug must be for a staircase I suppose.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

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                    @cstross Suspected it might be something like that. Deferring to the appliance/device purchaser is a fascinating approach.

                    I grew up during the conversion to grounded outlets and from Bell System to Modular phone jacks, so it's not like we didn't have plenty of connector weirdness on this side of the pond too.

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                    • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                      @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                      @Sie @nygl @cstross That's a pain you have to rewire it every time you want to pull out the plug. Neutral on the case and an earth that doubles as a live is an interesting choice.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                        @cstross Jesus Christ. AI was supposed to make the competition more fierce for the Nobel Prize. Instead, it's gonna sweep the fucking Darwin Awards.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                          Notes for Americans:

                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                          @cstross I would have thought, given it appears to be connecting live to earth, it'd trip the RCD rather quickly.

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                          • tautologyT tautology

                            @ssilvonen @cstross Ackroyd the Barbarian wi' 'is warsheep and scout ferret. 'e adjusts his warcap and lights his Woodbine. as 'e descends to cleanse the lands of rogue Lancastrians.

                            Wi' his warcry of "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, dust tha want braying"?

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                            @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                              Notes for Americans:

                              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                              TC Won't Give In To LiesT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              TC Won't Give In To Lies
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                              @cstross

                              AI 101: never believe any answer AI gives you.

                              AI is for entertainment purposes only. It has zero functionality to ensure it's replies are correct. Worse, it is designed to make it's nonsense replies sound as plausible as possible.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                Notes for Americans:

                                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                @cstross And of course being a probabilistic bullshit machine, ask again and you get a different diagram. ChatGPT 5.2 just produced this beauty for me.

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                                • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                  @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

                                  Link Preview Image
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                                  @Sie @nygl @cstross No no, this one is for Europeean Schuko Plugs. Completely different thing.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                    Notes for Americans:

                                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                    @cstross I love those plugs I can open with a screw driver ... those are lifesafers when you want to hook up your solder jobs (mostly high power bench supplies and audio amplifiers with 100-1000 W) had to cut up sooo many perfectly fine cables until I found one where the plug had a screw to open it.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                      Notes for Americans:

                                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                      MikeStokM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @cstross @nomenloony maybe the AI enjoys listening to Hawkwind who had this on the back cover of their PXR5 album?

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                        @cstross

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                                        • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                          @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                                          @Sie @nygl @cstross

                                          This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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