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  • Brian SwetlandS Brian Swetland

    @cstross Was (1) due to variation in outlet designs in different locales or some other reason?

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    @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

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    • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

      @oddhack @cstross

      Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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      (www.macquarie.com.au)

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      @shaknais hahaha, of course it’s Macquarie.

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      • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

        @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

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        @nygl @cstross you gotta wire it like that because of the Coriolis forces

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        • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

          @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

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          #96

          @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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          • C.S.StrowbridgeC C.S.Strowbridge

            @cstross

            "1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs)."

            This is such a stupid thing.

            The plug itself is very good, but having to wire it yourself is painfully dumb.

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            @csstrowbridge @cstross It’s not difficult. My dad taught me how, though the wire colours were different when I was a kid. There is an easy mnemonic for the current colours.

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            • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

              @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

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              @drahardja @cstross This plug must be for a staircase I suppose.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

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                @cstross Suspected it might be something like that. Deferring to the appliance/device purchaser is a fascinating approach.

                I grew up during the conversion to grounded outlets and from Bell System to Modular phone jacks, so it's not like we didn't have plenty of connector weirdness on this side of the pond too.

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                • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                  @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                  @Sie @nygl @cstross That's a pain you have to rewire it every time you want to pull out the plug. Neutral on the case and an earth that doubles as a live is an interesting choice.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                    #101

                    @cstross Jesus Christ. AI was supposed to make the competition more fierce for the Nobel Prize. Instead, it's gonna sweep the fucking Darwin Awards.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                      Notes for Americans:

                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                      @cstross I would have thought, given it appears to be connecting live to earth, it'd trip the RCD rather quickly.

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                      • tautologyT tautology

                        @ssilvonen @cstross Ackroyd the Barbarian wi' 'is warsheep and scout ferret. 'e adjusts his warcap and lights his Woodbine. as 'e descends to cleanse the lands of rogue Lancastrians.

                        Wi' his warcry of "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, dust tha want braying"?

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                        @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                          Notes for Americans:

                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                          @cstross

                          AI 101: never believe any answer AI gives you.

                          AI is for entertainment purposes only. It has zero functionality to ensure it's replies are correct. Worse, it is designed to make it's nonsense replies sound as plausible as possible.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                            Notes for Americans:

                            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                            @cstross And of course being a probabilistic bullshit machine, ask again and you get a different diagram. ChatGPT 5.2 just produced this beauty for me.

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                            • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                              @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                              @Sie @nygl @cstross No no, this one is for Europeean Schuko Plugs. Completely different thing.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                Notes for Americans:

                                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                @cstross I love those plugs I can open with a screw driver ... those are lifesafers when you want to hook up your solder jobs (mostly high power bench supplies and audio amplifiers with 100-1000 W) had to cut up sooo many perfectly fine cables until I found one where the plug had a screw to open it.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                  Notes for Americans:

                                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                  @cstross @nomenloony maybe the AI enjoys listening to Hawkwind who had this on the back cover of their PXR5 album?

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                    @cstross

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                                    • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                      @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                                      @Sie @nygl @cstross

                                      This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                                      • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                        @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

                                        Link Preview Image
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                                        @Sie @nygl @cstross Fun fact: the Europeeans are now all extinct due to electrocution (eelectrocution? eleectrocution?!).

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                          Notes for Americans:

                                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                          Albert Hickey
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                                          @cstross

                                          Copilot just now with prompt.
                                          show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                                          Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                                          Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

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