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  • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

    @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

    MauriceB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @drahardja @cstross This plug must be for a staircase I suppose.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

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      #99

      @cstross Suspected it might be something like that. Deferring to the appliance/device purchaser is a fascinating approach.

      I grew up during the conversion to grounded outlets and from Bell System to Modular phone jacks, so it's not like we didn't have plenty of connector weirdness on this side of the pond too.

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      • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

        @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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        #100

        @Sie @nygl @cstross That's a pain you have to rewire it every time you want to pull out the plug. Neutral on the case and an earth that doubles as a live is an interesting choice.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

          Grumble πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡¬πŸ‡±G This user is from outside of this forum
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          #101

          @cstross Jesus Christ. AI was supposed to make the competition more fierce for the Nobel Prize. Instead, it's gonna sweep the fucking Darwin Awards.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

            Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)S This user is from outside of this forum
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            #102

            @cstross I would have thought, given it appears to be connecting live to earth, it'd trip the RCD rather quickly.

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            • tautologyT tautology

              @ssilvonen @cstross Ackroyd the Barbarian wi' 'is warsheep and scout ferret. 'e adjusts his warcap and lights his Woodbine. as 'e descends to cleanse the lands of rogue Lancastrians.

              Wi' his warcry of "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, dust tha want braying"?

              MauriceB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #103

              @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                Notes for Americans:

                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                TC Won't Give In To LiesT This user is from outside of this forum
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                TC Won't Give In To Lies
                wrote last edited by
                #104

                @cstross

                AI 101: never believe any answer AI gives you.

                AI is for entertainment purposes only. It has zero functionality to ensure it's replies are correct. Worse, it is designed to make it's nonsense replies sound as plausible as possible.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                  Notes for Americans:

                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                  Ross BurtonR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Ross Burton
                  wrote last edited by
                  #105

                  @cstross And of course being a probabilistic bullshit machine, ask again and you get a different diagram. ChatGPT 5.2 just produced this beauty for me.

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                  • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                    @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                    Ratsnake GamesR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #106

                    @Sie @nygl @cstross No no, this one is for Europeean Schuko Plugs. Completely different thing.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                      Notes for Americans:

                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                      Mistake not ...Z This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #107

                      @cstross I love those plugs I can open with a screw driver ... those are lifesafers when you want to hook up your solder jobs (mostly high power bench supplies and audio amplifiers with 100-1000 W) had to cut up sooo many perfectly fine cables until I found one where the plug had a screw to open it.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                        Notes for Americans:

                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                        #108

                        @cstross @nomenloony maybe the AI enjoys listening to Hawkwind who had this on the back cover of their PXR5 album?

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                          Neo Ehproque
                          wrote last edited by
                          #109

                          @cstross

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                          • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                            @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                            Dan O'GinnecD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Dan O'Ginnec
                            wrote last edited by
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                            @Sie @nygl @cstross

                            This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                            George BG Splendid AlexS Chuckles β€οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦β€οΈC 3 Replies Last reply
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                            • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                              @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                              Volker StolzF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #111

                              @Sie @nygl @cstross Fun fact: the Europeeans are now all extinct due to electrocution (eelectrocution? eleectrocution?!).

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                Notes for Americans:

                                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Albert Hickey
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                                #112

                                @cstross

                                Copilot just now with prompt.
                                show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                                Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                                Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

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                                • Dan O'GinnecD Dan O'Ginnec

                                  @Sie @nygl @cstross

                                  This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                                  #113

                                  @Sie @nygl @cstross @DanKen

                                  I do miss how janky the outputs were for those

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                    Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #114

                                    @cstross Look carefully - designed by M.C. Escher

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                      Notes for Americans:

                                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                      ChristopherD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Christopher
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #115

                                      @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

                                      Charlie StrossC leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M 2 Replies Last reply
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                                      • MauriceB Maurice

                                        @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

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                                        #116

                                        @barnesmaurice @ssilvonen @cstross Food, beer, a warm sheep and companions. Wait, 'OW MUCH! Nah, tha can all bugger off and leave me t'misen.

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                                        • Albert HickeyW Albert Hickey

                                          @cstross

                                          Copilot just now with prompt.
                                          show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                                          Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                                          Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

                                          Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Albert Hickey
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #117

                                          @cstross

                                          Tried asking how to use a chainsaw and Copilot refused.
                                          So, chainsaw dangerous wiring a plug is OK.

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