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  • Erik JonkerE Erik Jonker

    @pst @sotolf @cstross NotebookLM has proven it's value, at least for me. AGI is a different discussion which I don't find very interesting. Just "strong AI" will change our world.

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    @ErikJonker
    Well it is definitely changing the world and people's lives. But where it changes them the most, it is not for the better. See the pictures of Gaza or Minneapolis. That is the direct consequence of AI and people promoting it. These consequences should be taken into account when advocating it. As are the environmental costs and economic Frankenstein that is being built.
    @sotolf @cstross

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    • Cadbury MooseC Cadbury Moose

      @th @cstross

      No, just no. It's a good quality socket (MK are one of the best, and used to be the automatic choice for the building trade), but you have no idea what's behind that faceplate and if it's been correctly wired. Sticking _anything_ conductive into an electrical outlet is a very bad idea. (And a metal door key is probably one of the worst things you could use.) 3:O(((>

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      @Cadbury_Moose @th @cstross If you don’t trust what’s behind, don’t plug anything in any outlet that you didn’t personally test, no?

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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        @cstross is this a thing people on the UK do regularly: rewire their plug? I never once had to research how a German plug looks on the inside. What causes this?

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        • HansH Hans

          @cstross is this a thing people on the UK do regularly: rewire their plug? I never once had to research how a German plug looks on the inside. What causes this?

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          @Hans It's not been a routine thing for 30-ish years, but the UK only standardized on its current mains plug wiring in 1948 and rewiring the entire country took many decades.

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          • DarrenD Darren

            @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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            @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross Imagining a world where we don't have a plug... And in the USA.

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            • O’BriatT O’Briat

              @Cadbury_Moose @th @cstross If you don’t trust what’s behind, don’t plug anything in any outlet that you didn’t personally test, no?

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              @Teenage @th @cstross

              Indeed. All electric cables and outlets are "live" until personally proven otherwise.

              (Someday I'll lift the floorboards at Chez Moose and test/remove the old RLIC[1] power cables and all the VIR[2] lighting circuits. (Previous owner(s) installed laminate on top of the floorboards, which is a bit of a bugger.))

              3:O(>

              [1] Rubber Insulated Lead Covered. You do not want to know.
              [2] Vulcanized India Rubber (same 1930s era), you do not want to know about this either.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                Notes for Americans:

                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                @cstross This thread is great 😂

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                • DarrenD Darren

                  @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                  @DJDarren @cstross Big Clive is rolling in his grave.

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                  • DarrenD Darren

                    @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                    @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross here’s a diagram showing how a closed choke causes gasoline to dilute engine oil.

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                    • Amelia Bellamy-RoydsA Amelia Bellamy-Royds

                      @elaine1helen @cstross Yes, one key point of failure for asking "simple" questions of genAI is that they are designed to generate something original, combining and randomizing their training inputs instead of just copying one.

                      And for something like this, there's the issue that they don't really have a 3D model of the world, so every different angle of an image is like a different variation on the diagram, and these then get combined in ways that don't make sense from a real-world perspective.

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                      @AmeliaBR @elaine1helen @cstross

                      The general category of “technical illustration” is something that generative “AI” is (for very clear theoretical reasons) consistently incapable of doing even minimally competently.

                      In addition to household electrical circuits, some other fun technical illustrations where gen-“AI” flaws are obvious even to relatively inexperienced people:

                      - electronics diagrams (equally likely to release the magic smoke, if attempted)
                      - chemical structures
                      - architectural diagrams
                      - star charts
                      - really, maps in general, especially if it’s of someplace not super familiar to American techbros

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                      • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                        @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                        @Sie @nygl @cstross That's how things work in Europee.

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