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I’m always fascinated by how irrationally angry the idea of anarchism makes some people.

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  • HeavenlyPossumH This user is from outside of this forum
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    I’m always fascinated by how irrationally angry the idea of anarchism makes some people.

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      I’m always fascinated by how irrationally angry the idea of anarchism makes some people.

      Texas TechnicianT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @HeavenlyPossum Eh, I've never been bothered by anarchist.

      Not reasonable to be bothered by a goup of people who are wholly unserious and cannot become organized.

      Like Michael Malice type ppl. "Free market capitalism, no regulation, ayn rand aCtUALly!"

      Then there are the anarchist communism ppl. I'm sure that'll work out as a system for 350 mil people.

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      • Texas TechnicianT Texas Technician

        @HeavenlyPossum Eh, I've never been bothered by anarchist.

        Not reasonable to be bothered by a goup of people who are wholly unserious and cannot become organized.

        Like Michael Malice type ppl. "Free market capitalism, no regulation, ayn rand aCtUALly!"

        Then there are the anarchist communism ppl. I'm sure that'll work out as a system for 350 mil people.

        HeavenlyPossumH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @txtechnician

        And yet here you are, taking time out of your busy and meaningful day in an attempt to snidely insult me.

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        • HeavenlyPossumH HeavenlyPossum

          @txtechnician

          And yet here you are, taking time out of your busy and meaningful day in an attempt to snidely insult me.

          Texas TechnicianT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @HeavenlyPossum Insult? No, agree. I had no idea that was how you self identified before making this comment.

          I am saying this from the perspective of someone in modern american politics. Anarchism, as I understand it, is silly.

          It simply doesn't work.

          Its a less workable concept than Libertarian ideology (I'm aware political party doesn't equal economic ideology. But by far, Libs are where most ppl identify as anarchist).

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            @HeavenlyPossum Insult? No, agree. I had no idea that was how you self identified before making this comment.

            I am saying this from the perspective of someone in modern american politics. Anarchism, as I understand it, is silly.

            It simply doesn't work.

            Its a less workable concept than Libertarian ideology (I'm aware political party doesn't equal economic ideology. But by far, Libs are where most ppl identify as anarchist).

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            @txtechnician @HeavenlyPossum

            > It simply doesn't work. Its a less workable concept than Libertarian ideology.

            I attempted to remind him of the same last night:

            VulcanTourist (@VulcanTourist@autistics.life)

            @benroyce@mastodon.social @violetmadder @0x4d6165 @HeavenlyPossum This has become an odd argument of theoretics (some of which apparently I can't now see) that isn't likely to enjoy any tangible evidence any time soon. That said, I find HeavenlyPossum's original statements regarding the legitimacy of violence to be credible. No statement was made suggesting a solution per se, only observations about the current and historical nature of its exercise... and that's about as far as we're likely to get, observing the problems without a solution. We're in an awkward period where we recognize the problems without being able to solve them, because potential solutions all require a type of creature that doesn't yet exist. Socialist economics, libertarian economics, and anarchist governance are all literally impossible for the current iteration of humanity to implement because we're saddled with limbic-brain baggage that we must fully cast off before any of those becomes viable. We're waiting for our (social) evolution to catch up and make solutions possible.

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            > That said, I find HeavenlyPossum's original statements regarding the legitimacy of violence to be credible. No statement was made suggesting a solution per se, only observations about the current and historical nature of its exercise... and that's about as far as we're likely to get, observing the problems without a solution.

            > We're in an awkward period where we recognize the problems without being able to solve them, because potential solutions all require a type of creature that doesn't yet exist. Socialist economics, libertarian economics, and anarchist governance are all literally impossible for the current iteration of humanity to implement because we're saddled with limbic-brain baggage that we must fully cast off before any of those becomes viable. We're waiting for our (social) evolution to catch up and make solutions possible.

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              @txtechnician @HeavenlyPossum

              > It simply doesn't work. Its a less workable concept than Libertarian ideology.

              I attempted to remind him of the same last night:

              VulcanTourist (@VulcanTourist@autistics.life)

              @benroyce@mastodon.social @violetmadder @0x4d6165 @HeavenlyPossum This has become an odd argument of theoretics (some of which apparently I can't now see) that isn't likely to enjoy any tangible evidence any time soon. That said, I find HeavenlyPossum's original statements regarding the legitimacy of violence to be credible. No statement was made suggesting a solution per se, only observations about the current and historical nature of its exercise... and that's about as far as we're likely to get, observing the problems without a solution. We're in an awkward period where we recognize the problems without being able to solve them, because potential solutions all require a type of creature that doesn't yet exist. Socialist economics, libertarian economics, and anarchist governance are all literally impossible for the current iteration of humanity to implement because we're saddled with limbic-brain baggage that we must fully cast off before any of those becomes viable. We're waiting for our (social) evolution to catch up and make solutions possible.

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              > That said, I find HeavenlyPossum's original statements regarding the legitimacy of violence to be credible. No statement was made suggesting a solution per se, only observations about the current and historical nature of its exercise... and that's about as far as we're likely to get, observing the problems without a solution.

              > We're in an awkward period where we recognize the problems without being able to solve them, because potential solutions all require a type of creature that doesn't yet exist. Socialist economics, libertarian economics, and anarchist governance are all literally impossible for the current iteration of humanity to implement because we're saddled with limbic-brain baggage that we must fully cast off before any of those becomes viable. We're waiting for our (social) evolution to catch up and make solutions possible.

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              @txtechnician @HeavenlyPossum

              He's of course welcome to keep dreaming of the distant day when it might be viable, but it's just that, a dream. Of course I said none of this to insult.

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                @txtechnician @HeavenlyPossum

                He's of course welcome to keep dreaming of the distant day when it might be viable, but it's just that, a dream. Of course I said none of this to insult.

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                @VulcanTourist @HeavenlyPossum For many years I was certain the Libertarian was correct. On economics, law, foreign policy.

                The more I learned about why the laws exist. How economics works. How money works.

                The more I realized how naive the notion of any "perfect" system is. Especially ones that require perfect ppl.

                Anarchism, requires perfect ppl for it work. Laws and government exist. Because perfect people do not exist.

                For that matter. Perfection is never obtainable.

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