Wandering Adventure Party

@atomicpoet maybe, I don’t know exactly what you mean by doom?! Human extinction? No not in the near future. Some doom for some people and things has happened and is happening because we (wealthy westerners) are letting it so yes! I just think the term is black and white when in fact there are degrees of misery to be inflicted depending on what we do now. What are you all doing? That’s the key to all of this?! Honestly, I’m burning right out now with efforts to change stuff (not very successfully I’ll admit), just been speaking with a group of Green councillors and yes, things are dire, fighting fascism as well as the climate crisis. We need to all get off our collective arses frankly rather than debate doom or not doom.

@atomicpoet I used to see criticism of ‘doomers’ a lot on Twitter but this is the first time on the fedi. I’ve never been sure what is causing the offence? Doom for who? Doom for what? There are so many crises and so many possible outcomes.

Will my life be as comfortable in 30 years time? Will I have suffered losses of my health, of material wealth and people I love because of the worlds inability to respond quickly enough to myriad crises very possible. Will I be still be able to live a fulfilled and meaningful life, also possible. That’s me.

Am I doomed if I live on Tuvalu which will be underwater? If my livelihood depends on coral reefs for fishing, if I’m on the Gaza Strip, if I’m an indigenous person in Alaska? What does doom mean then? Will the rich world’s late actions save them from their suffering?

What if I’m an orangutan or a whale, am I doomed? Does saving a few of my kind mean that I’m not? What about the Amazon rainforest, is it doomed? What does doomed mean for the Amazon?

There seem to be a lot of people (me included) shouting ‘grab a bucket your house is on fire’ but still not enough people grabbing buckets.

Will we put out the fire? I would say it’s still possible but there will be a lot of damage now. Is that doomerism?