Wandering Adventure Party

@Alephwyr @artemis
in terms of climbing and liberation, we'll need functioning bodies for that. hence the need for masking and taking appropriate precautions with contagious illness and collective health

@Alephwyr @artemis

i can see how it reads that way but that's not what i was saying. Cory continued to mask during the ongoing COVID pandemic, appearing at DefCon masked for example. this was two or three years into the pandemic when many believed or pretended it was over and so they no longer took precautions

somewhat recently, after becoming more popular and making more money, he abruptly stopped masking. i wasn't critiquing him speaking about masking.

@Alephwyr @artemis

different strokes, i guess

Doctorow has a lot of money and influence among 'radicals'/progressives so talking about the importance of masking (then stopping randomly) or being against Big Tech and then supporting world-ending AI has a much bigger footprint than if you or i did so

will calling him out change things? not for him, especially since he reacts defensively instead of thinking on the more respectful counters

but 'the audience' might get something outta it

@Alephwyr @artemis
i think calling something purity politics is usually just a defense mechanism, but there are times when it seems to fit

in this case with Cory he seems to be running into folks who are calling him out for having inconsistent political principles (similar to when he stopped masking).

whatever one's politics, once they deviate to a certain degree from what's stated there will be pushback

@Alephwyr @artemis
i think i agree with what you're saying

but, also, the phrase that describes what Cory is talking about it "purity politics" (one could use others).

it could be that something else is also described with "purity culture" but there's another term that directly refers to what he means (even though the situation isn't really about purity politics)

@artemis
i also grew up with purity culture (Evangelical Christianity)

i think language is much more nuanced and fluid than is often admitted

that said, i think he's actually just using the wrong term. what he's referring to is called "purity politics"

i think he's also wrong about it fitting this situation, which is more about having clear political principles