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@augieray The Blue Meanies - the Alameda County sheriff - used to tear gas us (Berkeley, California residents) regularly with CN gas - they had sprayers built into the bottoms of their patrol cars and they would spray an entire block at a time.
It was pretty nasty stuff.
@briankrebs A couple of thoughts:
1. Other countries may, and I think probably, will impose similar requirements on US people trying to enter those counties. In other words, the US would approach becoming a closed kingdom, like N. Korea.
2. Just wait until someone remembers Little Bobby Tables (image below).
3. The data will leak (or more likely, be sold.)
@SharpCheddarGoblin @HeavenlyPossum You may well be right that the number of "innocent" ICE people is zero. But before bringing down a very heavy hammer, I'd like to give them, individually, an opportunity that they refuse to accord to others: a chance to defend themselves.
Much of my extended family died in the Nazi death camps; I've been beaten by police, tear gassed, and faced government goons with guns. So I am quite willing to subject ICE people - and their managers all the way to the top - to heavy criminal and civil punishment and to make them pariahs for the rest of their, hopefully miserable, lives.
@HeavenlyPossum That's why I put in the "If, and it is a big IF".
I can imagine that there could be some ICE people left over from "the old days" before the organization became corrupted and crazy. Why such people have not resigned would be a good question.
@HeavenlyPossum I would imagine that among the bulk dross of ICE agents that there are a few good ones.
(I am thinking of the story of Abraham bargained with God ti save the few good people, if any, in Sodom and Gomorra - Genesis 18.)
If, and it is a big IF, there are any good people in ICE, what would they have to demonstrate or do to show that they ought to be saved from the wroth that I hope will land on Miller, Noem, Bovino, and everyone else in the ICE hierarchy, top to bottom?