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@atomicpoet
To elaborate, you seem to be giving Valve credit for using Apple product design and integration techniques and, perhaps as well, giving it kudos for doing so using open source which is decidedly not proprietary.
This conflicted with the very proprietary nature of Apple, used for good against other proprietary companies (MS) when it was the underdog but used against customers now.
Those negative perceptions seemed at odd with giving Valve kudos.
@atomicpoet
Gotcha.
What I was trying to relate to you was that when I started to understand what you were saying by the end I realized that my negative perception of Apple in its current form (the Doctorow-enshitified one) had derailed me at the beginning of reading and, as a result, it took me longer to absorb what you were getting across.
I wasn't sure if you were aware of that pitfall, which I judged others might fall into so I wanted to let you know.
@atomicpoet I didn't say you said kernel.
I'm sorry I'm having this affect on you. I'm not trying to disagree with anything you said.
@atomicpoet
Perhaps you are contrasting what Apple did w/ the Mach kernel & being closed with Steam using the same combined product strategy with the Linux kernel (and wider open source userspace) to produce an open ecosystem akin the the current closed Apple ecosystem.
I just got derailed momentarily but the phrase "the Apple of Linux" which immediately brings to mind the Apple of today and a whole lot of confusion for me understanding your larger point. It was a distraction to your point.
@atomicpoet Steam is doing what you wish the old Apple would have done?
@atomicpoet
Hasn't Apple's current (enshittified) reputation eclipsed its original spunky underdog reputation?
I was honestly confused by the opening tag line and didn't realize you were talking an Apple that no longer exists.
@aj @LanguageMan1 @atomicpoet
The largest market is the Golden Horseshoe surrounding the west end of Lake Ontario with 7.7 to 10 to 11 million people depending on where you draw the lines.
There are two CFL teams: Toronto and Hamilton. As a comparison, that combined market has one NHL team and one NBA team, whose salary caps are an order of magnitude higher with far fewer players. They are big money sports.
CFL television contracts are much smaller money and much smaller advertising dollars.
@aj @LanguageMan1 @atomicpoet
I just did a quick check and Calgary Stampeder single game prices look to be CA$ 25-73 (plus up to 7 for Ticketmaster; you can buy without their fee at a box office I assume).
Our stadiums hold from 20-56,000 people.
The team salary cap is $6,000,000 so with 45 players that's an average $133,333. I'm sure there are players only making $60-70,000 who have regular jobs in the off season. Apparently the very highest paid players are in to $250-600,000 range.