One of the things that's interesting about the broader hobby is the assumptions it makes about what gamers are like.
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@Taskerland The worrying thing about Laserface, Derek and playing with bare feet, is he's dangerously close to becoming a trope about a group that deserves a webtoon
@Printdevil The comedically awful player is an old old trope in fairness. I think my view of Derek Laserface is like the guy who only plays ninjas and when forced to play Call of Cthulhu beligerently agrees to play a retired professor of ninja studies.
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@Taskerland I always look at this through the lens of the one guy in my old group who played Literally Dean Winchester in every single ttrpg regardless of setting. like we were playing fallout like ok why is dean winchester here
@vortiwife In fairness, 'deeply-closetted shacket-wearer" is a good character concept.
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@Printdevil The comedically awful player is an old old trope in fairness. I think my view of Derek Laserface is like the guy who only plays ninjas and when forced to play Call of Cthulhu beligerently agrees to play a retired professor of ninja studies.
@Taskerland To be immediate in response, I'm thinking a retired professor of Ninja Studies sounds like a great CoC character. I can imagine playing that and doing a "eyes light up" bit every time it might be Ninja. It'd be like the Lupus diagnosis in House
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@Printdevil The comedically awful player is an old old trope in fairness. I think my view of Derek Laserface is like the guy who only plays ninjas and when forced to play Call of Cthulhu beligerently agrees to play a retired professor of ninja studies.
@Taskerland @Printdevil I've known players like that, and I've accepted that a game we're both in is a game that will be not fun for at least one of us, so I don't play with them. I would rather no gaming than do gaming I don't enjoy, when it comes down to it.
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@Taskerland To be immediate in response, I'm thinking a retired professor of Ninja Studies sounds like a great CoC character. I can imagine playing that and doing a "eyes light up" bit every time it might be Ninja. It'd be like the Lupus diagnosis in House
@Taskerland of course I am a notorious awful player
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@Taskerland To be immediate in response, I'm thinking a retired professor of Ninja Studies sounds like a great CoC character. I can imagine playing that and doing a "eyes light up" bit every time it might be Ninja. It'd be like the Lupus diagnosis in House
@Printdevil That would be very funny.
I used to know someone who was like that about Wittgenstein. We used to have betting pools about how long it would take them to bring up Wittgenstein and people started trying to steet the conversation towards or away from subject based on their betting.
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@Taskerland @Printdevil I've known players like that, and I've accepted that a game we're both in is a game that will be not fun for at least one of us, so I don't play with them. I would rather no gaming than do gaming I don't enjoy, when it comes down to it.
That's the line in the sand about accommodation, there is one. But that is exactly a personality issue. There's no sane rule in a game that adjudicates for "I do not enjoy this person in games" you can agree to "I don't enjoy suicidal references is games" or any other trigger, but you can't write a good "I don't agree to him *points*" rule. That's not prep for a game that's couples counselling. @RogerBW @Taskerland
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@Printdevil That would be very funny.
I used to know someone who was like that about Wittgenstein. We used to have betting pools about how long it would take them to bring up Wittgenstein and people started trying to steet the conversation towards or away from subject based on their betting.
@Taskerland It's oddly a perfectly reasonable character and also one that you can imagine getting involved in a first scenario because of impossible poisoning or something. It's only a meh character if played by bloke who always plays ninja. Which is inherently interesting. There's such good RP in the point where one of the players goes "ok well it looks like we'll have to chop off the heads, bullets didn't work. Does anyone know where we could get some swords?"
*Eyes light up audibly*
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@Printdevil That would be very funny.
I used to know someone who was like that about Wittgenstein. We used to have betting pools about how long it would take them to bring up Wittgenstein and people started trying to steet the conversation towards or away from subject based on their betting.
@Taskerland one of my old lecturers was a perception bloke, and over time he specialised in contingent after image effects, until finally just a single one. This tiny perceptual glitch that you could capture a process delay on in milliseconds. He studied just thatfor decades, all his students theses, his PhD students etc. He was Scottish though
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Which is quite a weird understanding of human nature as it assumes that people are completely unreasonable and refuse to back down or alter their behaviour in any way but will instantly and unquestioningly follow published guidelines.
I guess it's all about solving problems *at scale* and realising that you can't trust that people will have the social skills or nous to solve inter-personal conflicts.
Moreau Vazh Rigid rules following and a pathological avoidance of what can feel like demands? Hmmm…
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@Taskerland To be immediate in response, I'm thinking a retired professor of Ninja Studies sounds like a great CoC character. I can imagine playing that and doing a "eyes light up" bit every time it might be Ninja. It'd be like the Lupus diagnosis in House
@Printdevil @Taskerland "Um, prof, we're in Idaho." "That's exactly where you wouldn't expect to find ninja!"
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Anyway, one of my pet theories is that the folk devil figure of the 'auteur GM' associated with the hobby as-it-was in the 1990s is really a product of the industry assuming that GMs could manage group cohesion despite gamers often not being massively well-socialised and the industry not being great at training GMs.
You look at modules from that period and it is all 'Here is how to punish your players for being disruptive' and well... people applied the techniques that were offered to them.
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@Printdevil @Taskerland "Um, prof, we're in Idaho." "That's exactly where you wouldn't expect to find ninja!"
The Ninja have branches everywhere like the Gideon's bible people. In fact I have no evidence they aren't the same group, and I have a photoshop subscription. @RogerBW @Taskerland
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The Ninja have branches everywhere like the Gideon's bible people. In fact I have no evidence they aren't the same group, and I have a photoshop subscription. @RogerBW @Taskerland
[placeholder image of ninja arm leaving a bible and a box of really overrated chocolate] @RogerBW @Taskerland
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[placeholder image of ninja arm leaving a bible and a box of really overrated chocolate] @RogerBW @Taskerland
@Printdevil @Taskerland "There are more spiky bits in this edition of the Bible than I remember."
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[placeholder image of ninja arm leaving a bible and a box of really overrated chocolate] @RogerBW @Taskerland
One of the " in your face genAi" things I like about our gang, is you all know I could do that, so I don't in fact have to. You don't get a better visual prompt system than having friends
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@Printdevil @Taskerland "There are more spiky bits in this edition of the Bible than I remember."
@RogerBW @Printdevil @Taskerland That'll be the Old Testament.
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@RogerBW @Printdevil @Taskerland That'll be the Old Testament.
@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @Taskerland It's all smiting and knowing, with occasional war crimes.
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@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @Taskerland It's all smiting and knowing, with occasional war crimes.
"God moves in a mysterious way,
His wonders to perform;
He plants his footsteps in the sea,
And rides upon the storm.""Ninja."
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@Taskerland one of my old lecturers was a perception bloke, and over time he specialised in contingent after image effects, until finally just a single one. This tiny perceptual glitch that you could capture a process delay on in milliseconds. He studied just thatfor decades, all his students theses, his PhD students etc. He was Scottish though
His entire career. It's not even named after him.
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